The diagram you posted is exactly what evolution would predict.
Do you understand why or do you need me to spoon-feed you again?
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291Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy
by cofty ini intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.
there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.
there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.
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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy
by cofty ini intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.
there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.
there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.
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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy
by cofty ini intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.
there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.
there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.
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cofty
Bacteria don't have mitochondria!
We are talking about comparison between cytochrome C amino acid and nucleotide sequences in eukaryotes not eukaryotes and prokaryotes..
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One aspect of the Bible I still greatly benefit from
by Ireneus inthough many things in the bible do not make sense to me, there is something in it that makes my life easy.. this is how i arrived at it.
bible defines god as the servant of his children because he makes provisions for the enjoyment of life in abundance (mathew 5:44-47) and ‘renews’ them if need arises (mathew 19:28) with no intervention whatsoever in between which means he is not interested in gratitude/worship from his children.
yet history shows that people forget him in happiness and remember him only in distress which means he is not given love (though he is the giver of love), and he is not bothered of it.
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Cofty, intellectual honesty leads to Strong Agnosticism, not Atheism - Order
I disagree. An 'agnostic' is just somebody who is confused about what the question is.
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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy
by cofty ini intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.
there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.
there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.
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cofty
1. The assertion by evolutionists that a creator would not have created life the way that it exists. - Hooby
I have made no such assertion in connection to DNA and amino acid sequences of cytochrome C. I didn't respond to it because it has nothing to do with the topic.
There is no other possible interpretation of the evidence other than common ancestry and unguided evolution by natural selection over millions of years.
You can keep making vague references to something you think you once read somewhere that might have some ambiguous connection with the topic but that inconvenient fact isn't going away.
Why are the amino-acid sequences of humans and chimps identical but a bit different from other mammals, more different from fish and more different yet from yeast?
Why do these differences exactly reflect the evolutionary family tree?
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What are YOU depending on for Salvation? New Video
by JW Answers inmany groups (jehovah's witnesses, mormons, sda'..) false teachers and deceivers today rely and depend on good works, their own righteousness, keeping the law, having a certain lifestyle or behaviour, being faithful in service and/or being baptised to save them from their sins.
however, all of the above according to god's word, will never save a soul.
in this video, i cover most items which people today try and depend on to save them from their sins.
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I saw my total depravity. - Iriddle80
Christianity has no appeal unless it can first convince you that you are worthless as you are. What sort of human relationship does that remind you of?
Get off your knees. You are not depraved - you never were.
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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy
by cofty ini intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.
there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.
there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.
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Hooby - A lot of words but you have totally failed to answer the challenge. This is called 'hand-waving'. It's a distraction technique the Watchtower uses to give the false impression that it has dealt with difficult questions.
Comparison of Cytochrome C sequences PRECISELY confirms the evolutionary history of all species, from humans to yeast, EXACTLY as predicted by pre-existing models.
It is astonishingly powerful proof of common descent. Your panic over this fact is entertaining.
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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy
by cofty ini intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.
there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.
there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.
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11 hours Hooby! You been playing XBox instead of doing your homework?
Okay I will do it for you, maybe it was too difficult.
What would we expect to find in each of the three scenarios?
Option 1 - God created every species with an identical cytochrome C amino-acid sequence.
Since every one of the trillions of possible cytochrome C molecules works exactly the same this would probably be the scenario we would most expect to find. If this was the case, then when we compared the protein in modern species we would find that they are all identical.
If we assume young-earth creation then we would expect to see no differences at all, not even at the level of nucleotides. Over a longer time-scale, any mutations that did appear would result in a random pattern of differences between species. It would be just as likely that humans and yeast would share identical sequences with chimps being different from both.
Option 2 - God created every species with its own unique cytochrome C amino-acid sequence.
Every species would still show distinct DNA sequences but there would be no discernible pattern that would enable us to set out any relationships between species.
Option 3 - Every species evolved from a common ancestor.
In this case a very clear pattern should emerge. First we arrange extant species into a huge family tree based on fossil evidence, comparative anatomy, bio-geography and other lines of evidence. Then we study the sequences of DNA and amino-acids in representative samples of cytochrome C molecules. We would find that the genetic evidence EXACTLY corresponds with and confirms the 'tree-of-life'. Sequences of chimps and humans ought to be more-or-less identical but different from more distant mammals, more different from birds, amphibians and fish and very different from vegetables and yeast.
What do we actually find?
Go on have a guess.
If we had no other evidence for the common ancestry of every living thing this one line of evidence would be sufficient to make it a certainty.
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Evolution is a Fact #1 - Protein Functional Redundancy
by cofty ini intend for this to be one of a series of bite-sized ops on the evidence for evolution.. introduction to dna genes are sequences of dna made up of words (codons) each of which are three letters (bases) long.
there are only four letters in the genetic alphabet (acg&t) each word or codon is the recipe for one amino acid.
there are 20 different amino acids in living organisms.
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cofty
Hooby let's look at the options.
Remember first that there are lots of ways to make a working Cytochrome C molecule AND you can take any one from any species, transplant it to any other species and it works perfectly. This is due to 'protein functional redundancy'. The important thing about the molecule is its physical shape and there are trillions of trillions of way to join amino acids together so that they fold up into that shape.
Option 1 - God created every species with an identical cytochrome C amino-acid sequence.
Option 2 - God created every species with its own unique cytochrome C amino-acid sequence.
Option 3 - Every species evolved from a common ancestor.
Imagine we now compare a human, chimpanzee and yeast cytochrome C amino-acid and nucleotide sequences.
What would we expect to find in each of the three scenarios?
What do we actually find?
I'm heading out for the day but I will check your homework tonight. No TV until its finished!
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One aspect of the Bible I still greatly benefit from
by Ireneus inthough many things in the bible do not make sense to me, there is something in it that makes my life easy.. this is how i arrived at it.
bible defines god as the servant of his children because he makes provisions for the enjoyment of life in abundance (mathew 5:44-47) and ‘renews’ them if need arises (mathew 19:28) with no intervention whatsoever in between which means he is not interested in gratitude/worship from his children.
yet history shows that people forget him in happiness and remember him only in distress which means he is not given love (though he is the giver of love), and he is not bothered of it.
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cofty
I think theists find it comforting to dismiss atheists are just victims of a damaging cult.
It saves them having to deal with the issues.