threads about this have been made before, but none have been made for a few years.
i was very much on the fence with this one, i never really cared.
but i became curious recently, having had a few interactions with street preachers.
That is a very convoluted post.
Are you saying that there probably was a Jewish Rabbi who gathered a following who later wrote down stories about him, but we can never be certain which details are historically true?
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threads about this have been made before, but none have been made for a few years.
i was very much on the fence with this one, i never really cared.
but i became curious recently, having had a few interactions with street preachers.
Not so much.
What basis do you have for asserting that the Jesus of history 'bears no resemblance to Jesus in any way'?
All knowledge about Jesus comes from writings that originate years after his supposed death. So whether it's likely or not, his existence remains a hypothesis and must be treated as unknown till proven true.
The same can be said about many historical characters. If you are making the extraordinary claim that Jesus of the gospels was invented out of whole cloth then you have the burden of proof.
As for Nazareth the claim that it did not exist as an active town in Jesus' day is unsupported by the facts.
There are just too many convoluted stories in the gospels that make no sense if the writers had total freedom to invent a mythical character. Luke's contortions about the birth of Jesus is a classic example.
threads about this have been made before, but none have been made for a few years.
i was very much on the fence with this one, i never really cared.
but i became curious recently, having had a few interactions with street preachers.
the final nail in the coffin was the discovery that Nazereth didn't even exist in the 1st century
Actually the case for that assertion is very weak...
threads about this have been made before, but none have been made for a few years.
i was very much on the fence with this one, i never really cared.
but i became curious recently, having had a few interactions with street preachers.
I think there is a serious case to be made but having read and listened to a different versions of the 'mythical Jesus' theories I am unconvinced.
I think the deification of a real historical Jewish Rabbi is the more compelling explanation. There are some real problems with the idea that he was invented out of whole cloth.
this is my first post.
i feel intimidated because i don't really know computers to well and i hope that i don't break any rules.
i became a jw in 1981. i left in 91. i have so many questions.
Welcome to the forum Kim.
so obviously the best way to leave properly is fading, that's a given i would have thought?.
however i'm in a situation where i'm not sure what to do... i've just left home, nobody bar my parents / gparents know my address.
at my parents request they asked if i would switch my cards over to the closer kingdom hall.
Don't go. If an elder takes an interest in looking out for you they have power over you again. You are currently in the perfect position. Do nothing. Think up a good excuse in case your mum starts asking questions. Good luck.
so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
I didn't ask for a definition of consciousness, I said that on previous occasions you have declined to define 'awareness'. Still waiting.
Rocks are 'aware'? And you can say that with a straight face?
How does methodological naturalism offer evidence against the idea that awareness is fundamental to matter?
It can't because it is 'not even wrong'. The burden of proof is all yours. 'That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.' - Christopher Hitchens
Methodological naturalism works.
so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
You cry foul when I say that panpsychism claims that rocks are conscious but you then assert that rocks have 'awareness'.
From past experience you refuse to define 'awareness'.
This is how you play tennis without a net.
there is also little or no empirical evidence that can be offered for the common materialist conception of the world either.
Apart from absolutely everything that has been discovered since the Enlightenment.
Methodological naturalism works. Consistently. With astonishing results.
so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
Finding 1,000 doctors and engineers who are willing to resort to the 'god-of-the-gaps' is unremarkable. I'm surprised the Discovery Institute hasn't been able to find 10,000.
l recently went to watch green book , which l thought was excellent , it had everything , it took me though the whole range of emotions , from anger to joy , laughing then wanting to cry .
the quiet dignity of dr shirley mixed with volatile nature of tony lipp and seeing their emerging friendship was wonderful .
what really shook me was that these attitudes existed in my lifetime , not that long ago .
Thanks for the recommendation. We will probably go and see Green Book. I totally agree with you about The Favourite. I disliked every single character in the story. It was as interesting as watching paint dry.
Mary Queen of Scots is worth watching as long as you view it as entertainment rather than history. There are plenty inaccuracies in the plot. I also enjoyed Vice. It is the story of Dick Cheney and his role in the Iraq war.
For me the best film of the last few years was Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri.
