Posts by cofty

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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

by BourneIdentity in

in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

cofty

TPopeWSYF - Without theology we would still have all of those things.

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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

by BourneIdentity in

in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

cofty

You replied to mine with disrespect. - TPopeWSYF

I attacked your pseudoscience. Man-up.

I have never once taken offense in 10 years on this forum. That isn't my style. I was discussing ideas, you and some of your fellow christians replied with personal attacks as usual. It's a sure sign of insecurity.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking to refrain from personal attacks I am just pointing it out. The strongest criticism of religion is to observe christians dealing with contrary facts.

you're too much of a pussy to ever meet me face to face

Are you a teenager?

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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

by BourneIdentity in

in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

cofty

SBF - Science and reason works. We are all enjoying its fruits.

Theology has added precisely nothing that could not have been achieved without it.

Of course to get started we have to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps. There is a fundamental mystery at the heart of existence. Use the word 'god' as a placeholder if it makes you happy but having done that you are no further forward.

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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

by BourneIdentity in

in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

cofty

TPWSYF - I would no more spend time investigating pseudoscience about a wafer turning into god's heart muscle than I would invest time studying the case for a flat earth or the scientific evidence to phrenology.

your opinion about your own beliefs because every Christian is a moron, so you'll treat them that way

Nothing could be further from the facts. I have enjoyed many fruitful discussions with christians on this forum over the years. Many of whom I have profound respect for. Your behaviour is a very bad advert for what christianity does to ts followers.

I have spoken up on behalf of christians when non-believers have mde personal attacks. I have even started threads about the possible advantages of religious belief. You seem to be so insecure in your faith that you respond to any rational challenge with the sort of attitude that is all too common on social media. If we met face-to-face perhaps we could have an interesting discussion. When we met I would have nothing to apologise for but you on the other hand would have a whole history of petty insults to be sorry for. Are you really like that in real life?

If they KNEW it was a lie, they would have recounted

I don't believe any of the early christians were cynical liars. Shared belief about Jesus' 'resurrection' became a powerful delusion. We have seen similar group-think so many times in the modern world.

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Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?

by Diogenesister in

just before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..

i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!

) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.

cofty

I agree with vidiot it is impossible the wt will ever accept the fact of evolution.

Their weird interpretation of the meaning of Jesus' death makes a literal Adam and Eve essential.

Being a JW will always demand intellectual suicide.

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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

by BourneIdentity in

in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

cofty

It's always fascinating to watch Christians take refuge in dogma, platitudes and personal abuse.

I remember a time when I also had to hide from reality in order to protect faith.

the Shroud of Turin also confirms Christ's blood type as AB - TPopeWSYF

That's hilarious!

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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

by BourneIdentity in

in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

cofty

Saying that Jesus is like the hand of god and the holy spirit is like the personification of his love doesn't even begin to answer my simple challenge.

Insulting your interlocutor might suggest you are aware that you have nothing except hand-waving and personal attacks

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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

by BourneIdentity in

in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

cofty

How does being a JW or born again Christian make your biblical knowledge better? - TPWSYF

It doesn't obviously. The vast majority of evangelicals and catholics have very little knowledge of the bible. Niknak told me I needed to read the bible AND ask god to reveal himself. I told him that my bible knowledge was excellent AND that I used to be a christian.

that's why your faiths have no fruits - TPWSYF

The fruits of the Catholic church have been pretty disgraceful. If it had put as much effort into helping others as it puts into protecting pedophiles it would be impressive.

You never did reply to my explanation of the Trinity. - TPWSYF

Yes you're right I never did. There was nothing to reply to as you didn't explain anything. You just offered a couple of metaphors about the personification of god's word and actions.

You still haven't explained the trinity.

The existence of the original manuscripts coupled with ancient artifacts that mention people in the bible as true historical figures - Tenacious

Baker Street really exists. Sherlock Holmes doesn't.

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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

by BourneIdentity in

in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

cofty

Are you asking to know or asking to just mock? - Niknak

I haven't said anything even remotely mocking in tone. This is a religious discussion forum. I'm discussing religious belief.

Faith in God is Saying what you want, Knowing what you need and knowing that God can and will provide it for you in the perfect time.

That makes god sound like a cosmic vending machine.

If he provides all his children's needs in perfect time why does he frequently leave them to die in pointless natural disasters?

All the events in the Bible have been historically proven

But that really isn't so. Just for two examples there was no Adam and Eve. Humans evolved over millions of years from common ancestors of non-human animals. There was no global flood. These things are beyond sensible debate.

If you want to know more. Study it. Meditate on it and pray to Him. Ask Him to reveal Himself.

It's possible that my bible knowledge is as good as yours if not better. I was a born-again christian for about 9 years after I left the cult.

I know and accept that the Bible is God's word and it will and does speak for itself.

But you don't 'know' that the bible is god's word. You accept that despite an overwhelming amount of evidence to the contrary. Evidence that you seem to be unaware of.

we need to tread lightly so that we are not guilty of causing someone to stumble

We have nothing to fear from sharing facts and exchanging ideas. If somebody's beliefs are so fragile then they really need to be held up to scrutiny.

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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

by BourneIdentity in

in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

cofty

I don't know why innocent babies are killed ... I do know God is good. - Iriddle80

Is this an example of cognitive dissonance?

And I apologise if I have offended anyone!

Never apologise for expressing yourself honestly.