SBF thank you for that reference
Posts by cofty
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30Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?
by Diogenesister injust before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..
i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!
) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.
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Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?
by Diogenesister injust before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..
i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!
) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.
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cofty
This is apparently what Russell taught - SBF
I've read a lot of Russell's stuff. That is news to me.
Didn't the Photo Drama of Creation depict the creation of all the 'kinds' of creature?
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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?
by BourneIdentity inin the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.
we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.
why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?
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cofty
iwantoutnow - You are right religion has been responsible for all of that but I actually think that we would have had those things with or without theology. Religion probably served a useful purpose in the history of humanity by binding groups together.
Religion is about myths we tell each other. Some have been useful and others were designed to oppress and control.
My objection is to the habit christians have of confusing dogma with reality.
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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?
by BourneIdentity inin the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.
we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.
why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?
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cofty
So you took my advice.
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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?
by BourneIdentity inin the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.
we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.
why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?
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cofty
If that were true we would have already had them. - TPopeWSYF
The Roman Catholic church put the brakes on human progress for centuries. You have heard of the 'Dark Ages' haven't you?
It was the Enlightenment thinkers we have to thanks for science, reason, human rights and freedom. Those things were achieved despite Catholic dogma.
Carry on being obnoxious by the way. It's a great advert for faith.
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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?
by BourneIdentity inin the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.
we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.
why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?
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cofty
TPopeWSYF - Without theology we would still have all of those things.
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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?
by BourneIdentity inin the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.
we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.
why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?
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cofty
You replied to mine with disrespect. - TPopeWSYF
I attacked your pseudoscience. Man-up.
I have never once taken offense in 10 years on this forum. That isn't my style. I was discussing ideas, you and some of your fellow christians replied with personal attacks as usual. It's a sure sign of insecurity.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking to refrain from personal attacks I am just pointing it out. The strongest criticism of religion is to observe christians dealing with contrary facts.
you're too much of a pussy to ever meet me face to face
Are you a teenager?
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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?
by BourneIdentity inin the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.
we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.
why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?
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cofty
SBF - Science and reason works. We are all enjoying its fruits.
Theology has added precisely nothing that could not have been achieved without it.
Of course to get started we have to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps. There is a fundamental mystery at the heart of existence. Use the word 'god' as a placeholder if it makes you happy but having done that you are no further forward.
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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?
by BourneIdentity inin the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.
we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.
why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?
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cofty
TPWSYF - I would no more spend time investigating pseudoscience about a wafer turning into god's heart muscle than I would invest time studying the case for a flat earth or the scientific evidence to phrenology.
your opinion about your own beliefs because every Christian is a moron, so you'll treat them that way
Nothing could be further from the facts. I have enjoyed many fruitful discussions with christians on this forum over the years. Many of whom I have profound respect for. Your behaviour is a very bad advert for what christianity does to ts followers.
I have spoken up on behalf of christians when non-believers have mde personal attacks. I have even started threads about the possible advantages of religious belief. You seem to be so insecure in your faith that you respond to any rational challenge with the sort of attitude that is all too common on social media. If we met face-to-face perhaps we could have an interesting discussion. When we met I would have nothing to apologise for but you on the other hand would have a whole history of petty insults to be sorry for. Are you really like that in real life?
If they KNEW it was a lie, they would have recounted
I don't believe any of the early christians were cynical liars. Shared belief about Jesus' 'resurrection' became a powerful delusion. We have seen similar group-think so many times in the modern world.
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Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?
by Diogenesister injust before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..
i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!
) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.
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cofty
I agree with vidiot it is impossible the wt will ever accept the fact of evolution.
Their weird interpretation of the meaning of Jesus' death makes a literal Adam and Eve essential.
Being a JW will always demand intellectual suicide.