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  China Crisis | 18 members of Jehovah's Witnesses arrested and indicted

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on april 15, 2019, total of 18 jehovah's witnesses in china were arrested and charged with indictable offences relating to, "using an evil religion organization" to "incite the obstruction of law enforcement," and one charge relating to, "obstructing law enforcement by organizing and using an evil religious organization.".

  since the arrests, the governing body of jehovah's witnesses have remained silent on the plight of these 18 jehovah's witnesses in china.. link to translation of indictment:.

  https://jwleaks.org/2019/07/09/china-crisis-for-jehovahs-witnesses-18-members-indicted/.

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  cofty

  DD - Are all laws worthy of respect? How about the Jim Crow laws or South Africa's apartheid laws?

  How about the 1 million or more Uighur Muslims who are locked up in concentration camps for 'crimes' like praying to Allah?
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  As A Former JW Are You Patriotic At All?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovah’s witnesses were drilled with the idea that all governments are from satan and that we should have nothing to do with anything involving support of the government, voting, or political talk for one party or another.. now that you are out, is patriotism important to you?

  is voting important to you?

  are you supportive of your country?.

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  Yes. I don't know if it's sensible to say you are proud of of your country of birth because that was a matter of chance, but I am very pleased that I live in the United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland to give it its proper name.

  Despite a growing trend to trash everything to do with western democracies there are few places I would rather live. At its best 'Britishness' is an admirable set of characteristics.

  I am also a big fan of the USA and its vital contribution to freedom.
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  China Crisis | 18 members of Jehovah's Witnesses arrested and indicted

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on april 15, 2019, total of 18 jehovah's witnesses in china were arrested and charged with indictable offences relating to, "using an evil religion organization" to "incite the obstruction of law enforcement," and one charge relating to, "obstructing law enforcement by organizing and using an evil religious organization.".

  since the arrests, the governing body of jehovah's witnesses have remained silent on the plight of these 18 jehovah's witnesses in china.. link to translation of indictment:.

  https://jwleaks.org/2019/07/09/china-crisis-for-jehovahs-witnesses-18-members-indicted/.

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  cofty

  Will the gb now send funds or a lawyer to defend them?

  China is a totalitarian state. The law is whatever the party says it is.
  
  
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  China Crisis | 18 members of Jehovah's Witnesses arrested and indicted

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on april 15, 2019, total of 18 jehovah's witnesses in china were arrested and charged with indictable offences relating to, "using an evil religion organization" to "incite the obstruction of law enforcement," and one charge relating to, "obstructing law enforcement by organizing and using an evil religious organization.".

  since the arrests, the governing body of jehovah's witnesses have remained silent on the plight of these 18 jehovah's witnesses in china.. link to translation of indictment:.

  https://jwleaks.org/2019/07/09/china-crisis-for-jehovahs-witnesses-18-members-indicted/.

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  cofty

  Corney - WTF?
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  China Crisis | 18 members of Jehovah's Witnesses arrested and indicted

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on april 15, 2019, total of 18 jehovah's witnesses in china were arrested and charged with indictable offences relating to, "using an evil religion organization" to "incite the obstruction of law enforcement," and one charge relating to, "obstructing law enforcement by organizing and using an evil religious organization.".

  since the arrests, the governing body of jehovah's witnesses have remained silent on the plight of these 18 jehovah's witnesses in china.. link to translation of indictment:.

  https://jwleaks.org/2019/07/09/china-crisis-for-jehovahs-witnesses-18-members-indicted/.

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  cofty

  China is an oppressive regime. An estimated 1 million Uighur Muslims are being held in prison camps in Xinjuing province.

  It's only a matter of time before it takes control of Hong Kong by force.
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  If You Were Invited To A Judicial Committee How Did It Go??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  was it awful?

  did you feel freedom?

  was it a kangaroo court!.

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  I knew how it worked and I knew the weaknesses of the committee members so I kind of took control of the kangaroo court and succeed in causing them a lot of anger and frustration.

  It was satisfying I suppose but I would strongly recommend that anybody who is 'invited' to a JC respond with a non-negotiable 'go fuck yourselves'.
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  Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..

  i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!

  ) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.

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  SBF thank you for that reference
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  Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..

  i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!

  ) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.

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  This is apparently what Russell taught - SBF

  I've read a lot of Russell's stuff. That is news to me.

  Didn't the Photo Drama of Creation depict the creation of all the 'kinds' of creature?
  
  
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  For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

  by BourneIdentity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

  we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

  why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

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  iwantoutnow - You are right religion has been responsible for all of that but I actually think that we would have had those things with or without theology. Religion probably served a useful purpose in the history of humanity by binding groups together.

  Religion is about myths we tell each other. Some have been useful and others were designed to oppress and control.
  

  My objection is to the habit christians have of confusing dogma with reality.
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  For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?

  by BourneIdentity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.

  we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.

  why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?

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  cofty

  So you took my advice.