Posts by cofty

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Evolution or Creation Poll

by Vanderhoven7 in

evolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..

cofty

No you didn't. But let's get back to the topic.

Please tell me about the books you have studied that present the scientific case for evolution.

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Evolution or Creation Poll

by Vanderhoven7 in

evolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..

cofty

Vander said that 'half of the number of forum members' believe in creation.

The actual figure is 31% (based on a tiny sample)

I know you don't believe that facts exist SBF but maths is not a matter of personal opinion or perspective. That is the beauty of maths; answers are either right or wrong. No amount of PoMO bullshit can change that.

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Evolution or Creation Poll

by Vanderhoven7 in

evolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..

cofty

Discrediting people based on books they have or haven't read - Vander

When somebody dismisses one of the best established facts known to science and yet admits to knowing absolutely not one single thing about the topic that is more than enough reason to discredit their opinions.

half of the number of forum members believe in special creation - Vander

Don't confuse popularity with veracity.

Also your arithmetic is as good as your science. 15/49 x 100 = 31% not half.

If there are any evolution deniers here who have studied the scientific case for evolution they are notable by their silence.

Can you please defend your faith ... - Vander

Good try at equating science with religious superstitions.

Saying that somebody has faith in evolution is like saying we need faith to how an internal combustion engine works. Once you study the science and engineering and spend years working on them no faith is required - only evidence.

Evolution is a Fact Parts 1-40 ...

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Evolution is a Fact #3 - ERVs

by cofty in

part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.

comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.

they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.

cofty

Hooby - I Have accepted the burden of proof by providing 40 lines of evidence for evolution. Each of these is backed up by countless peer-reviewed papers.

Please provide a link to even one peer-reviewed paper that debunks ERV's as evidence of primate common-ancestry.

The creationist article you are linking to abuses papers in order to confuse ignorant xtians who know no better. It is exactly the same thing the Watchtower does. Read the article, do a google search for each of the papers and compare. Do you really need me to spoon-feed you?

Why is that creationism is the one WT doctrine that exJWs find so hard to get rid of?

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Evolution is a Fact #3 - ERVs

by cofty in

part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.

comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.

they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.

cofty

Where have you gone Hooby?

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Evolution or Creation Poll

by Vanderhoven7 in

evolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..

cofty

Vander - Serious question - What books that present the scientific evidence for evolution have you read?

Same goes for the other 15 who voted against evolution.

I am certain the answer is zero and equally certain nobody will admit to it.

Evolution is a Fact Parts 1-40...

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Evolution or Creation Poll

by Vanderhoven7 in

evolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..

cofty

Listening to David Berlinski drone on about probability is like listening to an old drunk in the pub.

I dipped into the video and he was trying to deny the evolution of whales by listing all the differences between a whale and a cow.

The evidence for the origin of aquatic mammals is outstanding. A whole series of intermediate species has been found in Pakistan in recent decades. Even more recently the evidence from comparative DNA has put the matter beyond debate. It is exactly the sort of evidence we use every day to convict murderers and rapists.

The field of evolutionary developmental biology has described how large changes in morphology result from small mutations of control genes.

The only possible excuse we could make for Belinski is if this conversation happened 50 years ago. The fact that anybody today finds his waffle interesting is tragic.

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Evolution or Creation Poll

by Vanderhoven7 in

evolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..

cofty

Vander - Serious question - What books that present the scientific evidence for evolution have you read?

If you do answer this question honestly you will be the first.

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Evolution or Creation Poll

by Vanderhoven7 in

evolution is how we got here.. demonstrate that you believe that all species evolved from a single cell over/within 3.5 billion years by tapping "like" below.. demonstrate that you believe in special creation by tapping "unlike" below..

cofty

Yes I think I will have to do that when I get time.

Vander - why do you chose the most ignorant, ill-informed, unqualified buffoons on the internet to support your superstitions?

I appreciate that ad hominem attacks are not an answer but really could you not find somebody more credible? Steven Myer isn't even a scientist. He is the founder of the Discovery Institute - a thoroughly discredited shower of charlatans.

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I saw my mother today for the first time in three years

by pale.emperor in

i saw my mother today for the first time in three years..

she was on one of the witnessing carts in town at a station i don’t usually get off at.

i did today as i was dropping my daughter off somewhere.

cofty

That is sad.

I think it illustrates why I wouldn't try to persuade my parents that the WT is a cult even if I had the opportunity. It is their entire world. I have no idea how they would fill the vacuum if they took the red pill at their time of life.