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The Biotic Message, alternative to Evolution
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
lecture by walter remine:.

https://youtu.be/o2usdd_8eay.
cofty

Hooby?
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Mathematical Challenges to Darwinism
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=678&v=noj4phmt9oe&feature=emb_logo.

these scientists all seem to agree that the traditional view darwinism cannot possibly be true.

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cofty

I haven't watched it yet but I'm going to guess they waffle about the unlikeliness of a protein molecule. Am I right?
Do they acknowledge redundancy? Did you know that the number of possible amino acid sequences that would result in a functional Cytochrome C protein molecule has been calculated to be a billion times larger than all the atoms in the known universe and all of those combinations would work equally well?
Did you know that each of those amino acid sequences can be constructed by numerous different sequences of DNA bases? The "language" of DNA is made up of just 4 "letters" - A,C,G and T.
Sequences of letters are read off in groups of 3 called codons.
ACGGCCTCGAATGCCTTC would be read as ACG GCC TCG AAT GCC TTC
If you do the maths you will see that there are 64 different codons or "words" that can be produced by this method.
A codon is comparable to the instructions for making one amino acid. There are a collection of 20 amino acids that living things can choose from to assemble proteins. (Actually a 21st can be assembled from the "stop" codon)
This is where the word redundancy comes in. There are 20 amino acids to be made but many more codons available.
It turns out that codons are often not too fussy about the third letter. If you want to make the amino acid alanine for example the codons GCT, GCC, GCA, or GCG will all do equally well.
Amino acids combine together like oddly shaped magnets that build a shape with various recesses and bumps. It is the physical shape of the molecule that does the work and it doesn't matter how you achieve that shape.
Then bear in mind that a shape that is approximately right will also function - just not as efficiently as the perfect shape. That gives us many more ways to make a functioning protein molecule that can later be shaped by evolution.
Imagine standing in a theatre in front of an audience of 10,000 people and saying something like 'how unlikely was is that every individual would end up here in your exact seat in this theatre on at precise moment?' It sounds impressive but actually it's nonsense. Any 10,000 individuals sat in any seat would still be an audience.
There are so many fallacies in conversations among creationists who hide from informed criticism. I would be happy to go through the video and point out more of their errors but I suspect that just like Hooby you will fail to engage in the conversation.
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Mathematical Challenges to Darwinism
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=678&v=noj4phmt9oe&feature=emb_logo.

these scientists all seem to agree that the traditional view darwinism cannot possibly be true.

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cofty

These scientists all seem to agree...
There are no scientists in that conversation. You might as well post a video of a hairdresser, a postman, a plumber and a gardener chatting about why gravity is bullshit.
Stephen Meyer - philosopher
David Gelernter - artist
David Berlinski - author
Peter Robinson - author
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The Biotic Message, alternative to Evolution
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
lecture by walter remine:.

https://youtu.be/o2usdd_8eay.
cofty

I was going to watch your video Hooby and offer a series of responses to each of his points but if you can't be bothered to engage why would I?
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The Biotic Message, alternative to Evolution
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
lecture by walter remine:.

https://youtu.be/o2usdd_8eay.
cofty

Hooby?
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The Biotic Message, alternative to Evolution
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
lecture by walter remine:.

https://youtu.be/o2usdd_8eay.
cofty

'Encrypted messages don't serve survival. The designs of life MUST serve survival, and also be a message'.
Hooby even you can see the self-contradiction in that sentence.
How can anybody start a well-prepared lecture with such a blatant own-goal and expect to be taken seriously?
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The Biotic Message, alternative to Evolution
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
lecture by walter remine:.

https://youtu.be/o2usdd_8eay.
cofty

His assertion 3 minutes in that it would not be possible or desirable to encode a message in the DNA is utter nonsense.
It would be ridiculously simple to encode such a message from the creator and protect it from loss by mutation.
In fact storage of information in DNA is an active field of investigation.
If the creator had encoded a simple signature in the code of every living thing we would not be having this debate.
He gets off to a really bad start in his argument
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The Biotic Message, alternative to Evolution
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
lecture by walter remine:.

https://youtu.be/o2usdd_8eay.
cofty

Hooby. He is an electrical engineer. How on earth does that qualify him to refute one of the most fundamental facts in all of science?
He bases his idea on something he calls 'Message Theory' but everybody who has reviewed his book seem unable to explain what that means.
How would you define Message Theory?
I haven't invested over two hours to listen to yet another creationist ramble on about complexity therefore god. Maybe you could describe the highlights of his ideas and explain how they are different from the usual Intelligent Design dogma.
What was it specifically about his presentation that impressed you? It certainly wasn't his charisma!
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The Biotic Message, alternative to Evolution
by hooberus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
lecture by walter remine:.

https://youtu.be/o2usdd_8eay.
cofty

He is an electrical engineer and his religiously-motivated assertion is 'God did it'.
The central idea of his book is something he calls 'Message Theory'.
Hooby could you define message theory please?
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Johnson and the NHS
by jhine in
1. social
2. current
we brits are being bombarded with facts and speculation about the horrific consequences of either corbin or johnson getting into power .

another thread has discussed the anti-semitic leanings ( or not ) of corbin .

what do people think about the left's claims that boris would sell off the nhs ,only this morning l saw a post on fb saying that " america is demanding full access to nhs records " it has been pointed out by a political reporter on the bbc that the talks that the papers were leaked about happened before johnson became pm and these were just things that have been put on the negotiating table by the usa .
cofty

Corbyn suffers from Oikophobia...
Noam Chomsky is patient zero.