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  Upon learning of a terminal illness would you return to being a JW to appease your family?

  by NVR2L8 in

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  this is an hypothetical question...i am doing well.

  but i was thinking about how my jw family, grandchildren and all will feel when their inactive grandfather dies with no hope of being reunited in paradise.

  of course there would be immediate rejoicing if i came back to the "truth" and a surge of conditional love from the "friends".

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  cofty

  I got a visit in hospital the first time. Then when it looked like my demise was no longer imminent that was the last I heard from anyone.
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  Greta Thunberg...what’s your view of her?

  by minimus in

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  she certainly is passionate about climate change.

  🤔.

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  cofty

  When the Vietnam War was raging, young people demonstrated against it. They were maligned, made fun of, mischaracterized, and treated with disdain...much like Greta is being treated here by some posters. - Sparky

  Yes but they were so much cooler in the 60s.

  

  
  
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  Upon learning of a terminal illness would you return to being a JW to appease your family?

  by NVR2L8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is an hypothetical question...i am doing well.

  but i was thinking about how my jw family, grandchildren and all will feel when their inactive grandfather dies with no hope of being reunited in paradise.

  of course there would be immediate rejoicing if i came back to the "truth" and a surge of conditional love from the "friends".

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  cofty

  Been there - twice - survived (so far)

  Going anywhere near that cult mentality was never further from my mind.
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  Greta Thunberg...what’s your view of her?

  by minimus in

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  she certainly is passionate about climate change.

  🤔.

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  cofty

  Hi Ted welcome to the forum.

  Interesting introduction.
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?

  by 30LPP in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello everyone.. first of all, i would like to say hello to all of you.i am not a jehovah's witness but i have been a child with "truth" because of my family.

  i am interested in the subject of this sect in the hope that i will be able to wake up the rest of my family.i would also like to share with you another interesting book of polish author włodzimierz bednarski, which was released in 2019, quite recently, and which is a small guidebook for the medical community and criticism of the watchtower society’s teachings.the book in pdf format is available for download at: .

  are jehovah’s witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?known books of this author are also:armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'?year 1925 and millions now living will never die!ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnessesthis book will probably be released later at:https://wtsarchive.com/pubs/3rd-party-publicationsi encourage you to read the above materials, because they are really worth it.. i wish everyone perseverance and health..

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  cofty

  So then from viewpoint blood could be transfused from a person if the giver had died naturally ?

  Eh?

  blood taken from a living being is therefore not sacred, it’s just a non issue

  Bingo
  
  
  
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?

  by 30LPP in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello everyone.. first of all, i would like to say hello to all of you.i am not a jehovah's witness but i have been a child with "truth" because of my family.

  i am interested in the subject of this sect in the hope that i will be able to wake up the rest of my family.i would also like to share with you another interesting book of polish author włodzimierz bednarski, which was released in 2019, quite recently, and which is a small guidebook for the medical community and criticism of the watchtower society’s teachings.the book in pdf format is available for download at: .

  are jehovah’s witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?known books of this author are also:armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'?year 1925 and millions now living will never die!ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnessesthis book will probably be released later at:https://wtsarchive.com/pubs/3rd-party-publicationsi encourage you to read the above materials, because they are really worth it.. i wish everyone perseverance and health..

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  cofty

  The confusing part is can blood remain sacred in the eyes of god when blood is transfused to another, as an attempt to save the person’s life since human life is sacred ?

  No there is no mandate for that view anywhere in scripture.

  Israelites could eat unbled meat (sustain their lives to use WT phraseology) with impunity as long as the life of the animal was not taken by another human.
  
  
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?

  by 30LPP in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello everyone.. first of all, i would like to say hello to all of you.i am not a jehovah's witness but i have been a child with "truth" because of my family.

  i am interested in the subject of this sect in the hope that i will be able to wake up the rest of my family.i would also like to share with you another interesting book of polish author włodzimierz bednarski, which was released in 2019, quite recently, and which is a small guidebook for the medical community and criticism of the watchtower society’s teachings.the book in pdf format is available for download at: .

  are jehovah’s witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?known books of this author are also:armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'?year 1925 and millions now living will never die!ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnessesthis book will probably be released later at:https://wtsarchive.com/pubs/3rd-party-publicationsi encourage you to read the above materials, because they are really worth it.. i wish everyone perseverance and health..

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  cofty

  theoretically the blood during a BT can remain sacred in its use

  Surely it is the exact opposite?

  Nobody dies to donate blood therefore the donated blood has no sacred significance.

  In the same way blood extracted from a live animal has no sacrificial value.
  
  
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?

  by 30LPP in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello everyone.. first of all, i would like to say hello to all of you.i am not a jehovah's witness but i have been a child with "truth" because of my family.

  i am interested in the subject of this sect in the hope that i will be able to wake up the rest of my family.i would also like to share with you another interesting book of polish author włodzimierz bednarski, which was released in 2019, quite recently, and which is a small guidebook for the medical community and criticism of the watchtower society’s teachings.the book in pdf format is available for download at: .

  are jehovah’s witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?known books of this author are also:armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'?year 1925 and millions now living will never die!ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnessesthis book will probably be released later at:https://wtsarchive.com/pubs/3rd-party-publicationsi encourage you to read the above materials, because they are really worth it.. i wish everyone perseverance and health..

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  cofty

  The old Hebraic law of abstaining of blood was specifically handed out as a dietary law

  I disagree.

  JWs also disagree and if we are going to help them to reason on blood transfusions it is more useful to find as much common ground as possible.

  1. Blood was sacred under The Law.

  2. Blood represents life.

  3. It was a capital offense to use blood for any purpose other than to offer it as a sacrifice on the altar.

  4. All of the restrictions about blood are just as binding on Christians as they were on OT Jews.

  It doesn't matter if you agree with all four of these points or not. They believe them, and we can concede all of them and start from there.

  The key point is this...

  Blood is only sacred insofar as it represents a life that has been taken
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?

  by 30LPP in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello everyone.. first of all, i would like to say hello to all of you.i am not a jehovah's witness but i have been a child with "truth" because of my family.

  i am interested in the subject of this sect in the hope that i will be able to wake up the rest of my family.i would also like to share with you another interesting book of polish author włodzimierz bednarski, which was released in 2019, quite recently, and which is a small guidebook for the medical community and criticism of the watchtower society’s teachings.the book in pdf format is available for download at: .

  are jehovah’s witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?known books of this author are also:armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'?year 1925 and millions now living will never die!ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnessesthis book will probably be released later at:https://wtsarchive.com/pubs/3rd-party-publicationsi encourage you to read the above materials, because they are really worth it.. i wish everyone perseverance and health..

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  cofty

  Welcome to the forum and thanks for the link.

  I would welcome your thoughts on this simple argument regarding blood transfusions...

  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
  

  Longer version of same argument...
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  Proportional Representation vs Electoral Collages

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  the craziness of first-past-the-post elections .... we'll no doubt have to now live through the scotts demanding another referendum, because we may take their lands, but we will never take their freedom!

  and so they want to be free of the uk, where they have a disproportionate influence in parliament, and be a little dot that's part of the eu.

  yup, freedom.. but anyway, as it stands right now they have 48 seats after getting 1.2m votes.

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  cofty

  It will be very interesting to see the next opinion poll for independence

  YouGov poll just out a few days ago = 44%

  Once the UK leaves the EU at the end of next month an independent Scotland would be stranded outside the EU with a huge deficit and no chance of getting back into Europe without agonising austerity measures to balance the economy.

  It will be interesting to see if Big Eck's criminal trial for multiple charges of rape will taint the image of the SNP