Some of the statements about complete obedience to the Watchtower can seem like rather odd admissions by the leaders from our perspective,
They were utterly deranged by any sane perspective.
i went back into this forum a little ways and found quite a bit of discussion on the walsh (1954) for those newly out or those who don't know of what i write, you should really check it out.
anyone who is a jw or studying with jw should see material from this trial.
my take away...the printed materials of the wtbts were to believed over the bible and if you didn't believe the wt teachings over the bible, ( even though they admit to false prophesy )you would be disfellowshipped and deserving of death.
Some of the statements about complete obedience to the Watchtower can seem like rather odd admissions by the leaders from our perspective,
They were utterly deranged by any sane perspective.
short message of help showing forth the correct gospel for today.. the problem with mankind, the provision for mankind, and a promise to mankind.. jws teach that works save.
the bible says that only christ saves if we believe / trust upon him..
Sea Breeze - You are making the common mistake of treating the bible as if it was a single book written by one author. There was no agreed cannon for centuries after the life of Jesus. Gospels and epistles circulated separately along with many more that were later excluded. The ones that made the cut show significant differences - not only in the historical data - but also in the theology of their authors (clearly not eyewitnesses of Jesus by the way)
For example the Jesus of Luke and Acts had a very different understanding of soteriology than did Paul.
Salvation by faith was a theme of Paul and Mark but not of Luke. Honest exegesis forbids us to wrench passages from Paul and pretend that other writers would agree with them when their own words prove otherwise.
Jesus' own words show that he expected 'the end' in his own lifetime. He taught his disciples to abandon their own families because of how urgent the times were. He was a dangerous false prophet who died for his grandiose claims about being 'King of the Jews'.
All your colourful diagrams about events thousands of years in his future would be a total puzzle to him.
short message of help showing forth the correct gospel for today.. the problem with mankind, the provision for mankind, and a promise to mankind.. jws teach that works save.
the bible says that only christ saves if we believe / trust upon him..
Sea Breeze - I didn't suggest ignoring any passages in the bible. I pointed out the unmistakable fact that Paul and Jesus agreed about amost nothing.
Jesus was a failed Jewish apocalyptic prophet. He told his disciples to abandon their families in order to follow him. The end was literally nigh!
According to Jesus the key thing was to keep the Law of Moses even more meticulously than the Pharisees.
Love of god was to be shown in practical love of others.
In the light of his execution and the failure of his prophecies his disciples went back to their wives and children and eventually invented a new interpretation of Jesus' life and ministry. Much like Rutherford did in the early 20th century and like every apocalyptic cult has always done.
Allow each bible writer to tell his own story in their own context.
short message of help showing forth the correct gospel for today.. the problem with mankind, the provision for mankind, and a promise to mankind.. jws teach that works save.
the bible says that only christ saves if we believe / trust upon him..
Read the synoptic gospels and let them speak for themselves without the lens of Pauline theology.
It is self-evident that Jesus was a Jewish prophet who taught that keeping the Law of Moses was the key to salvation. The essence of the Law was love of God and practical love of neighbour.
Salvation by faith in a dead Messiah was a later development.
Sea Breeze - If christians are removed before the GT how can the sheep be saved on the basis of their actions towards them?
short message of help showing forth the correct gospel for today.. the problem with mankind, the provision for mankind, and a promise to mankind.. jws teach that works save.
the bible says that only christ saves if we believe / trust upon him..
Jesus taught that works save - see the sheep and goats Matt. 25
Paul taught a different gospel in the unexpected light of a dead Messiah.
ask most fitness coaches, nutritionists or health professionals and they will tell you that weight control is about calories in versus calories out (cico).
after all, you can’t ignore the laws of thermodynamics!.
the flaw in this simplistic reasoning ought to be obvious; a human body and a steam engine are two different things.. our bodies have evolved complex systems of control and feedback loops in order to maintain a steady interior environment, also known as homeostasis.
Ask most fitness coaches, nutritionists or health professionals and they will tell you that weight control is about calories in versus calories out (CICO). After all, you can’t ignore the laws of thermodynamics!
The flaw in this simplistic reasoning ought to be obvious; a human body and a steam engine are two different things.
Our bodies have evolved complex systems of control and feedback loops in order to maintain a steady interior environment, also known as homeostasis. The man in the centrally-heated room has exactly the same internal temperature as his son who is out on the town in a t-shirt on a January evening. Our fat stores are also regulated by complex systems under the control of hormones. The idea that we evolved to fatten-up in times of plenty to prepare for lean times has no basis in reality. Our ancestors may have missed a meal or two but they were expert hunters. Meat and fat were plentiful. Fruit was seasonal and carbs were almost absent.
Approximately 3500 surplus calories are necessary to create 1lb of fat. That means that just one latte a day above your body's daily calorie requirements would add 20lbs of fat in a year, just one muffin per week would add another 5lbs as would one weekly portion of fries. But however much it seems otherwise this is not what happens. Clearly our bodies are more sophisticated than the bomb calorimeters used to calculate the numbers on our food packaging.
So why is it that at a time when there has never been so much information on diets and so many people huffing and puffing around the pavements in lycra and cycling for hours on static bicycles western populations have never been so plagued by obesity?
Put bluntly, the official advice - the advice I dished out as a coach for years - is dangerously wrong. ‘Eat less - move more’ does not work. Not if we define ‘work’ as making a significant difference in the long term. How many people who have suffered through a strict diet and exercise routine have maintained the results a year or two later? Sadly many end up worse off than before their diet. In the short term somebody who significantly reduces calories and increases exercise will lose weight - just as hypothermia does happen despite the body's best efforts at homeostasis.
So what’s going on? Why is it that some people seem to be able to eat as much as they want while others put on weight rapidly? Why could you eat all sorts of rubbish when you were young but now your weight is a constant battle?
In a word the answer is insulin.
Elevated blood glucose levels represent an imminent danger to our body. Hyperglycaemia results in serious and permanent damage to nerves, blood vessels and other organs and so the body takes urgent action to resolve it. Specifically it prompts our pancreas to release insulin which communicates an urgent message to all of our cells. It prohibits them from burning stored fat for energy and forces them to accept glucose from the blood which is turned into lipids and stored in fat cells.
Insulin levels are elevated shortly after eating any food containing sugar and takes several hours to return to normal. All carbohydrates - including bread, rice, pasta, potatoes etc - are turned into glucose in our bloodstream. The worst offenders are refined carbs - sweets, biscuits, cakes etc and surprisingly fruit juice. Carbs that break down slowly - those with a low glycemic index - do less harm than high glycemic index carbs but all of them trigger insulin. Eating fat does not elevate insulin, protein does, but much less so than carbs.
So think about the normal western diet. Cereal and fruit juice massively spikes insulin at breakfast. A latte and muffin boosts it again mid-morning followed by sandwiches for lunch. Perhaps a 'low-fat' sweet snack in the afternoon and then a main meal with rice or pasta or potatoes. Before bed perhaps another small meal so that we go to bed with high insulin levels. Just as those levels are back to a low level the alarm goes and we start again. An hour or two in the gym achieves nothing because the muscles are burning blood glucose rather than fat.
Obese people are NOT GREEDY. They are underfed. Not in terms of quantity of calories but in terms of nutrition. Eat - blood glucose spikes - insulin surges- blood sugar falls - hunger hormones elevate - eat (low-fat unsatisfying food) and repeat.
But here is the problem with insulin - over time our cells get resistant to it. Like somebody who finds they gradually need more of the same drug in order to have the same effect, as the years go by our pancreas needs to produce higher and higher levels of insulin in order to get our cells to do the job of reducing blood glucose.
Doctors test for glucose levels but there is no simple and cheap test for blood insulin. Year after year blood glucose levels remain more or less on an even keel but what goes undetected is that insulin levels are rising in order to maintain the same outcome. This insulin resistance - also referred to as metabolic disease - contributes to a whole range of diseases including obesity. Eventually the pancreas reaches its limit and blood glucose begins to rise. The doctor diagnoses Type II diabetes and prescribes insulin - much like prescribing alcohol to an addict. But the underlying problem of insulin resistance has been going on for a decade or two undetected.
It is unfortunate that this condition is even called diabetes. Type I diabetes is caused by a lack of insulin but Type II is the exact opposite. Interestingly some researchers are referring to Alzheimers as Type III diabetes due its apparent correlation to long-term elevated insulin.
The good news is that by significantly reducing carbs in the diet over a period of time the body can reverse insulin resistance and learn to switch more readily into fat burning mode in order to produce energy.
Now the practical stuff in digest form.
So how did the normal dietary advice go so badly wrong? It is a long if familiar story of the lines between science and politics becoming blurred. The book ‘Good Calories, Bad Calories’ by Gary Taubes lays it out in detail as does ‘The Big Fat Surprise’ by Nina Teicholz. A digest version of the story is set out by Taubes in his more accessible book ‘Why we get fat and what to do about it’.
Perhaps you are wondering about the link about fat, cholesterol and heart disease. These are good questions that are beyond this post but covered in detail by these and other authors. Suffice to say that if we had been offered better advice for the last fifty years our health systems would not be at breaking point.
it’s all a big fat lie.
more precisely a big low-fat, high-carbohydrate lie.. 'it took dr. paul marik 12 weeks to prove that conventional wisdom about dieting is a lie, and that was just to himself.
he lost 35 pounds, and cured himself of type 2 diabetes.
I lost 3 stone last year at a rate of 3lb per week without additional exercise and without getting hungry.
Everything the health and nutrition industry - and official government guidance - has told you is wrong!
Fat and protein will not make you fat - neither will it cause heart disease. Being overweight is just one symptom of metabolic disease. It is likely that around 80% of adults suffer from metabolic disease. If we did it right our hospitals would be half empty. It is ALL about insulin control and very little to do with calories.
Carbohydrates are the enemy. I didn't go for KETO I just massively reduced carbs,
I no longer take medication for acid-reflux and my joint pains are gone. My blood pressure is optimal and resting heart rate below 60. I haven't felt as fit for years.
The story of how the 'experts' got it so wrong is incredibly compelling - it is a disgrace. See 'Good Calories, Bad Calories' by Gary Taubes for the full story.
By the way hello again.
so says joe biden.. anybody agree with this?
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I stopped posting after reading that post too.
I will continue to check in to catch the latest news from the insane world of the Watchtower.
I have mostly enjoyed years of conversation and debate here, as anyone can see from my history. I hope some of my threads on WT doctrine and science have helped some.
I can't no longer be part of the irrational and hateful environment that has come to dominate this forum.
so says joe biden.. anybody agree with this?
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It's child abuse.
It's also an avalanche of lawsuits for the future.
Google 'rapid onset gender dysphoria'.
i have a very good friend who has been banned from facebook simply because he makes remarks positive about president trump and negative toward the democratic party.
he has tried to get back on facebook and it appears there is no way for him to return.
people are being removed from social media platforms simply because they have a different political view.
The losing side always blame the media for their own failures. It happened with Indy Ref and with Brexit. It's similar to the way losing football managers always think the referee had a bad day.
Having said that, it is now beyond all doubt that the print media, the movie industry, TV and social media have a strong left-wing bias.
Facebook continue to deny responsibility by claiming that they are only a platform. That is not sustainable if they continue to make these editorial decisions.