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  The Hubris of the Governing Body

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the governing body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature.

  they identify themselves as the 'faithful and discreet slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride.

  but what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation.

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  cofty

  Great reference Atlantis!
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  Is Russia Bluffing?

  by Fisherman in

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  “supplies of offensive weapons to the kyiv regime would lead to a global catastrophe,” state duma chairman vyacheslav volodin said.

  “if washington and nato supply weapons that would be used for striking peaceful cities and making attempts to seize our territory as they threaten to do, it would trigger a retaliation with more powerful weapons.”.

  what is russia implying?

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  cofty

  Totally agree with TDs assessment.

  Putin foolishly assumed that the people of Ukraine would welcome his troops. He is a Eurasian nationalist ideologue.

  You don't have to love Zelensky to support Ukraine's right to territorial integrity. Why should they give up one yard of their country to a bully?

  Some people in this forum seem to be disciples of the Neville Chamberlain school of international relations.

  (as an aside I have had coffee in my house with NC's g.grandson)
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  Jesus paid it ALL for YOU

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sadly, jehovah's witnesses depend on their religion to save them, and the bible does not point to religion as a saving point for salvation.. the video message below shows from the bible that for salvation, jesus paid it all for you.. are you saved?.

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  cofty

  JW Answers could you please confirm whether or not I am right about your belief in 'Unconditional Election' - the 'U' of Calvin's TULIP
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  The Hubris of the Governing Body

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the governing body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature.

  they identify themselves as the 'faithful and discreet slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride.

  but what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation.

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  cofty

  Great work TC!
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  The Hubris of the Governing Body

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the governing body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature.

  they identify themselves as the 'faithful and discreet slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride.

  but what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation.

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  cofty

  Please feel free to add more examples if you have access to the literature and include a translation with third person and first-person-plural words replaced.
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  Jesus paid it ALL for YOU

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sadly, jehovah's witnesses depend on their religion to save them, and the bible does not point to religion as a saving point for salvation.. the video message below shows from the bible that for salvation, jesus paid it all for you.. are you saved?.

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  cofty

  If I remember correctly JW Answers subscribes to a Calvinist version of xtianity.

  This includes belief in 'double-predestination' whereby god decrees in advance (before any human existed) who will have faith and be 'saved' and who will not have faith (the reprobates) who will be damned to the fires of hell for all eternity.

  Has there ever been a more evil dogma? You can 'dislike' my previous comment all you like but you identify yourself with some depraved ideology.
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  The Hubris of the Governing Body

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the governing body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature.

  they identify themselves as the 'faithful and discreet slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride.

  but what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation.

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  cofty

  It's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the Governing Body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature. They identify themselves as the 'Faithful and Discreet Slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride. But what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation. Remember that every word that is published is first approved by members of the GB.

  It's easy to miss because of the way they talk about themselves in the third person and use the first-person-plural to refer to their audience. But try rewriting it in the first person and see how clear their pomposity becomes.

  Consider these two examples...

  That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.” - Watchtower, July 15, 2013 p. 20-21

  Which, from the perspective of the author is to say ...

  I am the channel through which Jesus is feeding you in this time of the end. It is vital that you recognise ME. Your spiritual health and your relationship with God depend on ME.”

  Or...

  “We need to guard against developing a spirit of independence. By word or action, may we never challenge the channel of communication that Jehovah is using today. On the contrary, we should cherish our privilege to cooperate with the slave class.” - Watchtower, November 15, 2009 p. 14

  Again, the author actually means..

  “You need to guard against developing a spirit of independence. By word or action, may you never challenge ME. On the contrary, you should cherish your privilege to cooperate with ME.”

  These are just two of hundreds of similar quotes that demonstrate their manipulation and control techniques. Do not be fooled it is deliberate and cynical.

  It is also beyond my ken how intelligent adults can allow themselves to be spoken to in that manner.
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  Jesus paid it ALL for YOU

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sadly, jehovah's witnesses depend on their religion to save them, and the bible does not point to religion as a saving point for salvation.. the video message below shows from the bible that for salvation, jesus paid it all for you.. are you saved?.

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  cofty

  Are YOU saved?

  Saved by a 'loving' god from the eternal torture that he intends to inflict on all the billions of people that he chose not to save since eternity past. A decision that was in no way influenced by any good or evil thing done by the individual.

  Is this what you mean by salvation?
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  DID YOU KNOW - about Event 201? (Two months before the virus outbreak a simulation/discussion among the elite)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (event 201).

  “event 201” was an exercise organized in october 2019 to simulate what might happen if there was a severe pandemic.. it invited people from business, government, and public health to simulate coordinating a policy response to a theoretical pandemic.. .

  what was the event?.

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  cofty

  Matt Ridley and Alina Chan's book Viral lays out the evidence. He is a sober, mature science journalist.

  It is the greatest scientific 'accident' in history and the mainstream media couldn't care less.
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  DID YOU KNOW - about Event 201? (Two months before the virus outbreak a simulation/discussion among the elite)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (event 201).

  “event 201” was an exercise organized in october 2019 to simulate what might happen if there was a severe pandemic.. it invited people from business, government, and public health to simulate coordinating a policy response to a theoretical pandemic.. .

  what was the event?.

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  cofty

  Ironically it was probably an attempt to be prepared in advance for such an epidemic that caused it.

  The world outsourced the gain of function research to China who carried it out with a criminal disregard to safety.

  I have not the slightest doubt that Fauci et al knew what was going on - at the very least they took a 'don't ask approach.