no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
Cofty: How do you know what brings happiness to other creatures?
Where did I mention happiness? Don't strawman me or we are finished.
Making somebody a slave doesn't promote their well being. Kidnapping them and raping them doesn't either.
Murdering babies en masse definitely doesn't promote anybodies well being.
How come we all know this but fundi xtians don't?
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
It's such a relief as a former theist to no longer have to defend the indefensible
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
I don't approve of slavery, kidnapping, rape or infanticide - Iriddle
God and Jesus do.
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please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
SB - I would welcome an honest discussion of morality but if you are going to evade challenges by taking refuge in presuppositionalism I won't waste my time. It is deeply dishonest and intellectual cowardice.
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
It's not worth trying to converse with pre-suppositionalists. They will literally gaslight you and expect you take their ravings seriously while refusing to engage with any evidence of any sort.
Their ignorance (of which they are frequently proud) is exceeded only by their arrogance.
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
I'm going to ignore your ignorant drivel about evolution. READ A BOOK FFS!
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
How do you determine right from wrong
Christians pretend to determine it by reference to god's words and actions. This leaves them having to approve of slavery, kidnap, rape and infanticide.
Morality by divine fiat is no morality at all.
In reality they mostly get their morals in the same way as unbelievers. From approving those things that promote the well being of conscious creatures. Then they superimpose god-talk over the top of that which leads to impossible contradictions. Socrates saw the dilemma when he posed is famous dilemma to Euthyphro.
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
Iriddle - the accusation against you god isn't that he permitted humans to take slaves but that he specifically taught his own people to take slaves; to treat other humans as cahttel.
Curiously the god and father of Jesus has the morals of an Iron Age goat herder.
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
what does anything amount to in the end if there’s no afterlife - DD
If there is no after life then this life is very precious. It is myth of life after death that allows christians to justify their god's infanticide and Muslims to fly planes into buildings.
no subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
we are under a sentence of death. We are not God's children. He has absolutly zero obligation to any of us for anything good at all. Your next breath is a kindness from the Lord - Breezy
It's almost impossible to get theists to focus on the actual question. It's not surprising since facing up to the challenge you are being presented with -rather than the one you wish you were being asked - leaves you having to admit your god is an evil monster.
NOBODY SENSIBLE is saying evil proves a god can't exist. But evil - especially natural evil - proves conclusively the the god of christian theism is a fantasy.
It is truly amazing to watch christians try to cut the Gordian Knot by admitting their god murders innocent babies without the slightest care. Except that it totally fails to solve their dilemma. A generic god might act that way but the god revealed in Jesus cannot.
