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  CHANNEL 9 NEWS AT 10:00 ON DF'ING

  by ARoarer in

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  the story will air tonight on the 10 o'clock news.

  happy mother's day all you moms of victims, and all you moms who are victim survivors, silenced by watchtower threats of harsh discipline!!

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  jerome

  I dident even find any mention of it anywhere on the site.

  jerome
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  Bill Bowen's Use of "Fake Precision"

  by Psychdigg in

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  the fake precision fallacy involves making a claim with a mathematical precision that is impossible to obtain.. he does this on his site where he starts with an alleged and unsupported figure that the watchtower has a file of some 23,000 child molesters and runs that figure up to the point where it becomes absolutely absurd.

  his purpose is to persuade readers that jehovah's witnesses are a hot bed of child molestation.

  the problem is that he starts with at best very dubious sources and then he takes this data and treats it as if it is precise and factual.. it is not unusual for many of us to use a frivolous "false precision" in making statements.

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  jerome

  I think i'm going to bed.

  I'll have to taake this up tomorrow.

  jerome

  sleepy class
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  Why can't I date him?

  by pad in

  1. social
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  i have recently met a wonderful man.

  he is a jw, and has been all 25 years of his life.

  i am not, and have not even known any all of my life.

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  jerome

  All of this talk about not being allowed to be alone with each other sounds foregin to me.

  But then again, i'm not a witness and shes not baptized.

  jerome
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  CHANNEL 9 NEWS AT 10:00 ON DF'ING

  by ARoarer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the story will air tonight on the 10 o'clock news.

  happy mother's day all you moms of victims, and all you moms who are victim survivors, silenced by watchtower threats of harsh discipline!!

  !

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  jerome

  Ashi

  I just followed that link [upn9] and I cant find the interveiw, am I
  blind?

  Dose anyone know if there is a webcast to it?
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  Bill Bowen's Use of "Fake Precision"

  by Psychdigg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the fake precision fallacy involves making a claim with a mathematical precision that is impossible to obtain.. he does this on his site where he starts with an alleged and unsupported figure that the watchtower has a file of some 23,000 child molesters and runs that figure up to the point where it becomes absolutely absurd.

  his purpose is to persuade readers that jehovah's witnesses are a hot bed of child molestation.

  the problem is that he starts with at best very dubious sources and then he takes this data and treats it as if it is precise and factual.. it is not unusual for many of us to use a frivolous "false precision" in making statements.

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  jerome

  Sorry I took so long peoples...

  As I was typing I looked behind me and I saw this huge spider laying still in my window.

  I couldent find the bug spray so I had to smash it with a shoe!

  And I think it was a female because all of its babies were running all over my room!!! So i've been smaching bugs and cleaning up for the last few minutes.

  jerome
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  Bill Bowen's Use of "Fake Precision"

  by Psychdigg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the fake precision fallacy involves making a claim with a mathematical precision that is impossible to obtain.. he does this on his site where he starts with an alleged and unsupported figure that the watchtower has a file of some 23,000 child molesters and runs that figure up to the point where it becomes absolutely absurd.

  his purpose is to persuade readers that jehovah's witnesses are a hot bed of child molestation.

  the problem is that he starts with at best very dubious sources and then he takes this data and treats it as if it is precise and factual.. it is not unusual for many of us to use a frivolous "false precision" in making statements.

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  jerome

  Psych

  On Bills website he lays out what he call the dynamics(I think thats the word he used) of the molestation problem with in the Watchtower Society.

  He list one of them as the reluctantness of individual to seek help from outside the society. Civil Authorites would come under this heading.

  Witnesses believe that everything outside the WBTS is ultimetly under the controll of satan, that includes the police. So therefore the attitude that prevails is that not many Witnesses would decide to seek help from outside sources due to the contempt that tey have for anyone not a Jehovah's Witness.

  An attitude like that is a serious peoblem.

  That is one of Bills major concerns.

  Also there is the prevailing attitude among the Witnesses that, you must not bring reproach apon Jehovah's name.

  This also hampers justice. If you think about this for a minute you will see just how much destructive potential it has.

  Imagine that you are more concerned with protecting the reputation of your congregation than the safety of your children!

  What do you have to say about that?
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  Bill Bowen's Use of "Fake Precision"

  by Psychdigg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the fake precision fallacy involves making a claim with a mathematical precision that is impossible to obtain.. he does this on his site where he starts with an alleged and unsupported figure that the watchtower has a file of some 23,000 child molesters and runs that figure up to the point where it becomes absolutely absurd.

  his purpose is to persuade readers that jehovah's witnesses are a hot bed of child molestation.

  the problem is that he starts with at best very dubious sources and then he takes this data and treats it as if it is precise and factual.. it is not unusual for many of us to use a frivolous "false precision" in making statements.

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  jerome

  Psych

  In reply to your comment about the Jehovah's Witnesses being the most exemplory group of Christ followers that there are on the face on the earth I simply cannot agree with you there.

  many posters on this board have done [stress]extensive[/stress] research on the jehovah's Witnesses and their teachings only to come to the conclusion that they possess all the qualifications of a cult.

  This is not men as an insult but is a fact.

  We have found out that the Watchtower leaders have been continuly lying to its members and to the rest of the world for a very long time.

  These accusasations are serious but never the less they can be proven. In fact they have been documented.

  You stated that you can go any where in the world and have an instant family of Witnesses which is true, but only if you fall in to the cookie cutter mold of loylity and obedience that they have set out for their mambers, as one other poster put it.

  People very strongly dislike the Watchtower society because they have been hurt tremendiously by them and their practices, especially that of shunning.

  I classify the love that you experience as a Witness as conditional, due to the fact that it can be turned on or off like the flick of a switch all at the WT leaders command.

  When someone like yourself come onto the board trying to defend the Watchtower it really strikes a nerve by people who have been hurt by it and its members.

  Please dont be too harsh and just lurk for a while and you may find out just exactly why many members here hate the Watchtower so much.

  jerome
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  Bill Bowen's Use of "Fake Precision"

  by Psychdigg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the fake precision fallacy involves making a claim with a mathematical precision that is impossible to obtain.. he does this on his site where he starts with an alleged and unsupported figure that the watchtower has a file of some 23,000 child molesters and runs that figure up to the point where it becomes absolutely absurd.

  his purpose is to persuade readers that jehovah's witnesses are a hot bed of child molestation.

  the problem is that he starts with at best very dubious sources and then he takes this data and treats it as if it is precise and factual.. it is not unusual for many of us to use a frivolous "false precision" in making statements.

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  jerome

  Psych

  You have been arguing that Bill dosent have hard evidence to support some of his claims, mainly the numbers.

  I think that you very well do there. As far as I know all he said is that he has "a reliable inside source."

  Given the fact that Watchtower hasent been in the habit of revealing any statics which reflect nevatively on the organisation as a whole ( they call this not bringing reproach apon Jehovahs name ] it is hard to imagine that these numbers could ever be officially verified. The WBTS simply isnt in the habit of fully cooperating with civil authorites saying that they consider them to be under the infeluence of satan.

  But what other posters have been saying all is that

  There is a policy in place which offers sacuntariy for pediophiles within the organisation.

  Mainly the application of the two witness rule to this situation and the reluctance to report verified cases to the proper authorites.

  I would like to have your veiws on this.
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  Bill Bowen's Use of "Fake Precision"

  by Psychdigg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the fake precision fallacy involves making a claim with a mathematical precision that is impossible to obtain.. he does this on his site where he starts with an alleged and unsupported figure that the watchtower has a file of some 23,000 child molesters and runs that figure up to the point where it becomes absolutely absurd.

  his purpose is to persuade readers that jehovah's witnesses are a hot bed of child molestation.

  the problem is that he starts with at best very dubious sources and then he takes this data and treats it as if it is precise and factual.. it is not unusual for many of us to use a frivolous "false precision" in making statements.

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  jerome

  Could you please make your argument more clear?

  So far it seems that you have a problem with the numbers, what else do you want to discuss?

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  The guy has a point, just because his opinions happen to be unpopular dosent make him all bad.

  So just give him a chance for now.
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  Bill Bowen's Use of "Fake Precision"

  by Psychdigg in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the fake precision fallacy involves making a claim with a mathematical precision that is impossible to obtain.. he does this on his site where he starts with an alleged and unsupported figure that the watchtower has a file of some 23,000 child molesters and runs that figure up to the point where it becomes absolutely absurd.

  his purpose is to persuade readers that jehovah's witnesses are a hot bed of child molestation.

  the problem is that he starts with at best very dubious sources and then he takes this data and treats it as if it is precise and factual.. it is not unusual for many of us to use a frivolous "false precision" in making statements.

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  jerome

  I am going to ask you a question now that will set the tone for how many other posters will respond to you.

  Are you here for meaning full discussion or are you here simply to create a disturbance?

  If you cannot anwser this question satisfactorily you will probally be perminently be labeled as a troll.

  jerome