Posts by JerryTX

11

JWs & Personal Finance

by Valis in

jw
friends

perhaps this is not a widespread phenomenon, but have any of you considered the ramifications in regards to many jw families never saving for retirement or college funds, becues they thought the end was near, or college was a non-issue for so many of us?

just recently my parents never saved any money, becuase the promise of the end coming soon, but as old age creeps closer, i think some of the policy is revealing itself to be really bad advice.

i also wonder how long jws have to keep working after retirement age than the rest of the 'worldlies".

JerryTX

The elders in Abilene, Texas, gave me hell for going to court reporting school. Geez, even a trade school was forsaking Jehovah in their eyes. I'm glad I went anyway, as my other option was janitorial like the rest of the brothers in the hall. Still, the leading arsehole elder strode up to me one day after the meeting, while I was in the middle of a group talking, and said, "HATE TO SEE YOU THROW YOUR LIFE AWAY LIKE YOU ARE, BROTHER." Then he walked off.
Today he is a senile blubbering fool who doesn't know his own name.

--------------------------------------

"The truth will set you free--but first it will make you damn mad."

M. Scott Peck - "The Different Drum"

11

JWs & Personal Finance

by Valis in

jw
friends

perhaps this is not a widespread phenomenon, but have any of you considered the ramifications in regards to many jw families never saving for retirement or college funds, becues they thought the end was near, or college was a non-issue for so many of us?

just recently my parents never saved any money, becuase the promise of the end coming soon, but as old age creeps closer, i think some of the policy is revealing itself to be really bad advice.

i also wonder how long jws have to keep working after retirement age than the rest of the 'worldlies".

JerryTX

Well, Valis, your J-Dub parents can get on their knocking Watchtower knees and thank God they have a fine son they can move in with that will support them and take care of them. LOL!!!!

--------------------------------------

"The truth will set you free--but first it will make you damn mad."

M. Scott Peck - "The Different Drum"

27

WHO SHUNS YOU IN YOUR JEHOVAH WITNESS FAMILY?

by BERNARD in

jw
friends

most people are under the impression that the watchtower.

don't break up families, well people lets give them a. few examples.

since i left the jehovah witnesses my mother .

JerryTX

Gee, this is cheering me up.

Who shuns me?

Mother -- annointed so she says

Younger brother -- was my best friend

Ex-inlaws - family, ex-wife's side

Former friends -- scores and scores.

--------------------------------------

"The truth will set you free--but first it will make you damn mad."

M. Scott Peck - "The Different Drum"

28

Candy,

by larc in

jw
friends

what is your favorite, candy or candy bar?.

now, for me, i prefer snicker's and reese's butter cups, but that is just me.

i am humble enough to accept other answers to this pregnant question.

JerryTX

Any candy that has the word "Godiva" in it.

--------------------------------------

"The truth will set you free--but first it will make you damn mad."

M. Scott Peck - "The Different Drum"

14

About Do Not Calls

by LB in

jw
friends

i'm not having a lot of luck convincing my wife to just let us fade away.

she's in the middle of the angry stage.

so, i told her i would post this question and get imput from you people.

JerryTX

LB,

if you formally DA yourselves, your wonderful (sarcastic) daughter in law will probably use that as leverage to separate you from your son.
You did say she was hardcore JW, right?

Are you sure which way your son will go as far as his treatment of you? Most likely both ways, trying to keep her happy and you happy, which means no one will be happy. It might go your way, and he'll be forced to make a decision for you and his mom and he'll break up with his wife. Or he may decide he has to cut you off entirely if his wife "lays down the law."

My brother would leave the WT tomorrow, but he's passive and his wife has him under her thumb. She's hardcore JW.

Perhaps you could share this thread with your wife and "count the costs" before taking action?

Best of luck to you, LB. Know it's not easy for you guys right now.

--------------------------------------

"The truth will set you free--but first it will make you damn mad."

M. Scott Peck - "The Different Drum"

14

About Do Not Calls

by LB in

jw
friends

i'm not having a lot of luck convincing my wife to just let us fade away.

she's in the middle of the angry stage.

so, i told her i would post this question and get imput from you people.

JerryTX

LB,

my take is it will draw attention to you, unwanted attention from the elders if you have certain objectives in mind.

Are you trying to avoid the DF or DA label? Is your wife willing to accept the costs DF'ing can bring; total estrangement from loved ones still in, et cetera?

--------------------------------------

"The truth will set you free--but first it will make you damn mad."

M. Scott Peck - "The Different Drum"

46

How could we all get along better together???

by Celtic in

jw
friends

without being slagged off for opinions expressed, without being ridiculed often, without constant smart ass one liners and put downs, how could we given the opportunity get along better together?

not utopia, not this, not that, just a simple question in need of simple upbuilding replies that enable this place more to reflect the care for others it supposedly sets out to achieve.. any comments?.

here we go (rolling his eyes) .... peace.

JerryTX

Yes, Xena, I did read why Kismet was leaving. As I said, some people are hurting badly. If I was in a position where I had to stay *underground* because I was still interacting in the JW community, I wouldn't be posting personal information, because a site like this attracts people from the plain nutty status to those who are wise, caring and have the energy to share their wisdom with those of us still healing.

46

How could we all get along better together???

by Celtic in

jw
friends

without being slagged off for opinions expressed, without being ridiculed often, without constant smart ass one liners and put downs, how could we given the opportunity get along better together?

not utopia, not this, not that, just a simple question in need of simple upbuilding replies that enable this place more to reflect the care for others it supposedly sets out to achieve.. any comments?.

here we go (rolling his eyes) .... peace.

JerryTX

Ah, no offense taken, and no offense given, I hope, Larc, Celtic.

I just remember when I first got out of the Borg I was seething with anger. So when posters go absolutely bonkers, I try to understand.
It's so easy to twist off because your nerves are raw. Of course, this can certainly vary, but many people lost their entire family, all their friends, all in a single moment. I know it can make you angry in the extreme, and it can stay with you a long time. This isn't a place that attracts healthy, healed, balanced, peaceful individuals necessarily.

I see that some posters feel driven off. Is it because they don't want to, or are tired of dealing with the neurotic behavior one should *expect* from people who have been badly hurt by a religious cult? Or maybe they have matured past the point of *needing* to post here? Maybe both?

46

How could we all get along better together???

by Celtic in

jw
friends

without being slagged off for opinions expressed, without being ridiculed often, without constant smart ass one liners and put downs, how could we given the opportunity get along better together?

not utopia, not this, not that, just a simple question in need of simple upbuilding replies that enable this place more to reflect the care for others it supposedly sets out to achieve.. any comments?.

here we go (rolling his eyes) .... peace.

JerryTX

Why do we need to get along better? I think the question is rather shallow.

People are at different stages of their recovery from the Watchtower.
Some need to scream. Some need to rant. Some need to blow off steam. Some need an intellectual slant. Some need a gentle listening ear and kind support. Some have matured past needing this group and move on.

I have always seen acceptance here even when people have an explosion. There are always some that usually wish them well and encourage them to keep posting. I don't think you could find a better group of people to help you in your healing past the WT experience. There will always be friction here. There will always be healing here. There will always be people here who don't agree with you, and agree with you. Who like you, who can't stand you. Who piss you off, and those who will be your good friends.

--------------------------------------

"The truth will set you free--but first it will make you damn mad."

M. Scott Peck - "The Different Drum"

11

The Price For NOT Being Disfellowshipped

by Uncanny in

jw
friends

those two young american girl tennis players and supposed jw sisters have arrived down under again for this year's tilt at the australian open championship.

yes, the flamboyant venus and serena williams show is back in melbourne town.. after last year when sr venus triumphed at this event, i thought it would be hard for any jw sportsperson to top her ecstatic run around courtside with old glory.

or the way she stood so solemnly and proudly as her nation's national anthem got played after the big win.

JerryTX

There is nothing in the article that says they are baptized. There are unbaptized publishers, and the Williams sisters may simply go out in service because they've been taught to by their mother. If they're not baptized, I doubt the Watchtower will move to take any action against them. Headquarters does not want bad PR. As high a profile as Michael Jackson was, his disassociation was a very quiet matter. Spin Magazine (a music mag) published a detailed account of it, and mentioned the multiple elders meetings that took place regarding Jackson's estrangement from the JWs. You would think it would have merited at least a small blurb in "Watching Da World" in the back of the Awake rag. If the Watchtower is smart, they will say nothing, hear nothing, do nothing. It can only hurt their image at a time when they're numbers are going down. Perhaps the powers that be over the Watchtower have gotten a little wiser when it comes to the way they are perceived by the general public.

--------------------------------------

"The truth will set you free--but first it will make you damn mad."

M. Scott Peck - "The Different Drum"