I'm afraid that 1975 will become the next 1925. Goofy things that happened in the past, but look how much brighter the light is now!
Posts by pirata
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CO admits from platform that "we were embarassed by 1975."
by watson insaid with a smirk/smile/grin.
this one is the most glib i've seen.. actually, several times "75" came up.
maybe they feel the more they bring it up and make light of it, the more of a non-issue it will become..
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in need of a good brochure
by loosie ini have neighbors that the witness are obviously having a bible study with, they come by weekly in skirts and their 4 door car.. i need a good brochure that i can leave on their door everytime the jw's come by.. can anyone reccomend one?.
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pirata
How about printing out a list of questions to ask JWs?
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Let's study the Organization and dress up like Rutherford!
by Rank&FileGuy instudy the bible on family worship night?
nah!
let's study the organization and dress up like rutherford!
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pirata
Does anyone know where the thread of a few months back is that had the expose of the fact that the Advertise speech was about 1874 being the date of the kingdom to be advertisec? I can't remember when that was. Thanks. I'm working on a video. Need it.
Check out the Nov 1, 1922 Watchtower (reprints) pg. 337. Has the full speech (and many others) form that Convention.
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pirata
Guy: Come on, just try reading the Bible with me, independently...
Girl: No way, my faithful slave will guide me. I read that book there, Examining the Scriptures Daily 2011, which isolates one verse per day and tells me exactly how God wants me to understand that verse. In fact if I stubbornly believed that the verse had a different message I could be labelled an apostate and disfellowshipped. You wouldn't want that to happen to me, would you?
Guy: errrr... No. That's not some sort of cult, isn't it?
Girl: No way! Satan fools people to think that Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult, when in fact we are the world's only true religion. Most importantly, if you don't understand the Bible the way Jehovah's Witnesses do and become one of them God is going to destroy you and probably everyone else in the office at Armageddon.
Guy: ....
Girl: Here, let me get a book "What does the Bible Really Teach" from my purse and we can look at paragraph 1... Let me look at my theocratic calender here too and we can arrange a brother to come and follow up with you at your home.
Guy: .....
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Are they really that bad???
by anonymous4 inhad a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .
is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?
:-).
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pirata
If you want an informed decision check what Witnesses say and anti-witnesses say against God's word the Bible itself.
Debator. I agree. You are one of the few witnesses that I know who is not afraid to consider opposing information, and I respect you for that.
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Let's study the Organization and dress up like Rutherford!
by Rank&FileGuy instudy the bible on family worship night?
nah!
let's study the organization and dress up like rutherford!
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pirata
But how are they to really study that if they don't have access to publications before 1950?
Read the official, sanitized history in the current publications...
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Let's study the Organization and dress up like Rutherford!
by Rank&FileGuy instudy the bible on family worship night?
nah!
let's study the organization and dress up like rutherford!
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pirata
1) Read the "Advertise" speech in it's full in the old Watchtower PDF. Find out that Christ returned in 1874.
2) Read about the release of the book "Children" in the few months before Armageddon.
3) Read how the Governing Body makes Decisions in "Crisis of Conscience" by Ray Franz.
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Are they really that bad???
by anonymous4 inhad a good look into the doctrine, beliefs and practices of jws and to be honest, i don't really see anything wrong with it at all.. it's biblical and i've had such an eye opener the past year or so reading some of their books and magazines .
is there really any real reasons why i shouldn't want to get involved further?
:-).
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pirata
Don't mean to derail the discussion but:
Learn from the JWs
Learn from the exJWs.
Whatever you do, if one side tries to prevent you from reading, learning or talking to the other side, then you are at risk of not making an informed decision.
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Thinking of writing a letter
by ranmac inforgive me if this has been touched on many times before.. i was wondering if anyone has actually written the society requesting their response/justifications to the many discrepencies and flaws in their doctrine and history, such as failed/altered dates and prophesies, pyramidology, beth sarim, lack of transparency, economic and political ties to the world, how they no more than archeologists, biblical contradictions, etc, etc..... if so, what was their response?.
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pirata
Here's some correspondence to/from the watchtower on a few topics:
607 vs 587 BCE:
Blood transfusions:
http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/blood_-_jensen_letters.html
Noah's Flood Global?
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book study
by ssn587 indoes anyone know what book will be used for the next book study after this book?.
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pirata
Meeting times are still the same, but the Sunday meetings 15 minutes shorter because the public talk is 15 minutes shorter. I don't rememer ever getting an official reason for the shortening of the talk.