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  No, really. Mad Sweeney has hit the big time

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  i've been interviewed by www.ex-jw.com .. thanks juanviejo!

  you rock!.

  http://ex-jw.com/web-directory/cult-free-radio.

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  pirata

  Mad, that's an awesome interview. I'd like to listen to your show, is there any way to download it in MP3 format (I don't really have the circumstances right now to listen to it via the net)?

  I especially found this part of your interview quite profound:

  When your criticism of the Watchtower is based on the view that they are doctrinally wrong, for example, about the divinity of Christ or the rejection of the cross, you are missing what I believe is the real issue: That is the Watchtower’s violation of four fundamental human rights:

  1. the right to complete and truthful information
  2. the right to think and analyze that information autonomously
  3. the right to feel whatever emotions one feels without fear of repercussions
  4. the right to choose one’s own behaviors based upon thoughtful analysis of that complete and truthful information, in a way that produces real, positive feelings of joy and friendship – and unconditional love

  The Watchtower’s biggest crime isn’t that they don’t believe in the trinity or some other such religious doctrine. It is the way they violate those four basic human rights consistently and persistently as a mechanism to mentally – and to an extent physically – enslave members of the Jehovah’s Witness religion. This isn’t being talked about anywhere else that I could find, and I think it is important to talk about it.
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  Why can't you ask questions?

  by ihadnoidea in

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  i know that some will disagree on this, and say you can ask questions.

  yet, i ask you to honestly think what would happen if you openly started asking questions on jw doctrine or evolution.

  likely you would be made to feel like i did below if you started asking these questions to other jws.. .

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  I think part of the strong reaction against questions is that it raises cognitive dissonance levels in the person being asked. The easiest way to calm these is by silencing the questioner.

  A new study asking questions? That's normal because he doesn't understand yet.

  A brother/sister who has already committed to the truth and has questions? Now this is uncomfortable since he already has a knowledge of right and wrong and is implying that God's channel, in which I have put my trust, is wrong, and therefore that I am wrong (then go into defensive mode).
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  Discontinued Life Everlasting in Freedom of the sons of god book?

  by Sharpie in

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  i did some spring cleaning in my place and found an old box of books with my grandfathers stuff.

  in it i found some real gems, a dozens "brand new" copies of life everlasting of the sons of god books, and a copy of the divine plan of the ages with pyramid chart and all.

  now what i am wondering about why did they stop the life everlasting book?

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  pirata

  Yeah, look up the table of contents where it lists "chart", then reading the surrounding pages. The chart builds up a rivalry between the King of the North and the South, and shows that 1975 marks the 6000 years of Mankind's existence and 2975 marks 7000 years.

  "The published timetable resulting from this independent study gives the date of man's creation as 4026 B.C.E. According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E. So six thousand years of man's existence on earth will soon be up, yes, within this generation. ? So in not many years within our own generation we are reaching what Jehovah God could view as the seventh day of man's existence. How appropriate it would be for Jehovah God to make of this coming seventh period of a thousand years a sabbath period of rest and release, a great Jubilee sabbath for the proclaiming of liberty throughout the earth to all its inhabitants! This would be most timely for mankind. It would also be most fitting on God's part, for, remember, mankind has yet ahead of it what the last book of the Holy Bible speaks of as the reign of Jesus Christ over earth for a thousand years, the millennial reign of Christ. ? It would not be by mere chance or accident but would be according to the loving purpose of Jehovah God for the reign of Jesus Christ, the 'Lord of the Sabbath,' to run parallel with the seventh millennium of man's existence." Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God 1966 pp.26-30

  This was the book that caused "some Christians" to start "speculating" about 1975.
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  Anointed on here - Helping the lies to continue.

  by snare&racket in

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  i am new to the forum, but i am suprised to see people that claim to be anointed.

  it really frustrates me.

  why would god visit you and bless you in a religion you now recognise as false.

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  @Snoozy: Just sayin.....is this a acceptable word on here? Cause I would like to use it..

  I think he was saying bulls hit, but missed the space between the words. You know, bulls hit religion? (why they hit religion, I have no idea).
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  Anointed on here - Helping the lies to continue.

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
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  i am new to the forum, but i am suprised to see people that claim to be anointed.

  it really frustrates me.

  why would god visit you and bless you in a religion you now recognise as false.

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  @snare&racket:This is a website for people recognising the bullshit religion we were once all part of.

  Actually, this purpose of this website is listed on the front page:

  "The place to discuss anything relating to Jehovah's Witnesses and the WatchTower Bible and Tract Society... or just make new friends!"
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  Kingdom Hall Librarys : Can you still Veiw Older Publications ?eg:Russells,Rutherfords books ?? or even books from the ~50s

  by smiddy in

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  i`m just curious if such books as "life everlasting in freedom of the sons of god " " let your will be done on earth" etc.

  are still available in the kingdom hall libraries and if they are then that should be a wake up call to all jehovah`s witnesses.. if they are not then that should be an even bigger wake up call to all jehovah`s witnesses.

  the bible has never been altered in 2000 years under the direction of holy spirit.

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  Older halls will usually have them. Newer halls usually get them when an older brother/sister dies and leaves their books behind. I speak for North American English speaking halls. I can't imagine African and Asian halls, for example, would have much of a local supply to draw from.
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  Anointed on here - Helping the lies to continue.

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
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  i am new to the forum, but i am suprised to see people that claim to be anointed.

  it really frustrates me.

  why would god visit you and bless you in a religion you now recognise as false.

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  @serenitynow:! Really, who?

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/207200/1/Larsinger58-is-the-Messiah
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  Anointed on here - Helping the lies to continue.

  by snare&racket in

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  i am new to the forum, but i am suprised to see people that claim to be anointed.

  it really frustrates me.

  why would god visit you and bless you in a religion you now recognise as false.

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  pirata

  HI snare&racket,

  Welcome to the forum!

  The ones I've noticed here that say that they are anointed say it in the sense that ALL christians are anointed by Holy Spirit. I don't think that any one of them believe in a literal 144,000, or that there are two flocks of Christians.

  PS. Though we do have one or two here who claim to be the Messiah... Let the reader use discernment.
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  Should Christians Own Dogs as Pets?

  by undercover in

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  using the wt's "birthday logic" (only two mentions of b-days in the bible, both negative, which means "true christians" do not celebrate them) i wrote this faux wt article about whether true servants of the wt god should really own dogs... i'm no sd-7, but i tried..... .

  animals are truly a gift from jehovah as the creator of all things.

  animals have, since the creation, served as workers and companions for man.

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  pirata

  "look out for the dogs" is not referring to canines; this term is used to indicate male prostitutes by some bible dictionaries/commentaries.

  (Readers Reply)

  Dear Blondie,

  Some Bible scholars point out that the term "god" is used symbolically to describe male prostitutes. However, the clear connection between such animals and "workers of lawlessness" cannot be ignored (Matthew 7:23). The fact that dogs are associated with immoral acts should be of no suprise. One Circuit Overseer related, "I was visiting a small group of witnesses for dinner. While I was saying the prayer, their small dog came up to me and started humping my leg. Disgusted, I tried to move away, but the dog kept at it. To make matters worse, there was a second dog who started to hump the first dog. I was forced to cut the prayer short in order to get away from the situation. Later on in the evening, I noticed these dogs trying to hump other people's legs. Truly, dogs are an immoral influence. We are grateful to Jehovah that the Faithful Slave has provided new direction in this matter". Seeing the seriousness of this situation, are you willing to make changes so that you and your family can be clean in Jehovah's Eyes? (Ezekiel 44:23)

  Your brother working shoulder to shoulder,

  pirata
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  How many gods are there?

  by jgnat in

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  christianity was birthed in a polytheistic world, inheriting from jewish roots the concept of one g-d. now, instead of one god for israel, we are offered one god for the whole world.

  caesar (mortal men) was declared a god.

  gods had powers beyond ordinary men, could grant requests, and demanded sacrifice and worship.

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  pirata

  Biblically speaking, I notice the use of the word "god" as anything that people worship (including stomachs). The "god" doesn't necessarily have to be real.