Posts by TTWSYF

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Catholic Church Questions Motives of Abuse Victims-- Apology????

by blondie in

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criticism of vatican in wis. over abuse scandalby carrie antlfinger | posted: monday, march 29, 2010 10:24 pm.

a man who says he was among some 200 deaf boys allegedly molested by a priest in wisconsin said monday the vatican's defensive responses to revelations about the case make him feel like he did when he was 12, when no one would listen to him about the abuse.. arthur budzinski, 61, said at a news conference outside the cathedral of st. john the evangelist that pope benedict xvi is trying to protect himself against criticism of his handling of the wisconsin case against the rev.

lawrence murphy.

TTWSYF

yesiddid

If you can excuse the religion which instigated and carried on the inquisition for 350 years you can excuse anything.

If I may correct you. The inquisition was not a teaching of the Church. Some in the Church started it [in Spain I believe] and it was continued and it is certainly a terrible historical black eye, to say the least.

What can be said? Well, the bible says that the Church contains good and bad people and that Jesus will seperate the wheat from the chaffe. If the Church contains good and bad, then you cannot judge the Church from the bad only, can you? You must look at it's teachings and see for yourself if you are in the faith [again, as scripture states]. Everyone knows that power corrupts, and the more power, the more corruption. The inquisition happened during the centuries known as the Dark ages. There was alot of bad seemingly overcoming the good...but the Church is still there. Through that and other scandels the Church is still there just as Jesus promised. Even if there are terrible people connected to it, you have to know that there are more good people in it than bad, but the bad folks get all the press. So it is not the religion which conducted the inquisition, but corrupt people in positions of power. I hope you can see the difference.

respectfully,

dc

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Catholic Church Questions Motives of Abuse Victims-- Apology????

by blondie in

jw
friends

criticism of vatican in wis. over abuse scandalby carrie antlfinger | posted: monday, march 29, 2010 10:24 pm.

a man who says he was among some 200 deaf boys allegedly molested by a priest in wisconsin said monday the vatican's defensive responses to revelations about the case make him feel like he did when he was 12, when no one would listen to him about the abuse.. arthur budzinski, 61, said at a news conference outside the cathedral of st. john the evangelist that pope benedict xvi is trying to protect himself against criticism of his handling of the wisconsin case against the rev.

lawrence murphy.

TTWSYF

You just can't get rid of the infallable Pope!

Of course there are no infallable Popes. The promise that Jesus made to his Church was that it's teachings would be protected through all generations and ages and in the event of an anti-pope [and I'm not suggesting that this Pope is an anti-pope] that the teachings would still be uncorrupt,the teachings would remain infallable even if the individual is not. We all have read how Peter denied Jesus 3x, Paul had to correct him on atleast one occassion and he probably wasn't the smartest apostle, but his teachings were flawless. Read some church father's writtings and see that they all took their cues from Peter in Rome. That's why the Catholic church has been around for some 2000 years. That it can and will withstand the attacks of Satan and all of hell itself...that is was Holy Scripture says.

dc

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Catholic Church Questions Motives of Abuse Victims-- Apology????

by blondie in

jw
friends

criticism of vatican in wis. over abuse scandalby carrie antlfinger | posted: monday, march 29, 2010 10:24 pm.

a man who says he was among some 200 deaf boys allegedly molested by a priest in wisconsin said monday the vatican's defensive responses to revelations about the case make him feel like he did when he was 12, when no one would listen to him about the abuse.. arthur budzinski, 61, said at a news conference outside the cathedral of st. john the evangelist that pope benedict xvi is trying to protect himself against criticism of his handling of the wisconsin case against the rev.

lawrence murphy.

TTWSYF

As a Catholic, I am [and have been] disappointed in the handleing of these pediphiles. People-no matter what their faith- are entitled to dignity and justice. Repentance is mandatory for forgiveness from God, but our social justice system should be involved also. This is a problem that is not exclusive to the Catholic church. I have no idea why good men of God would cover such horrible crimes. It only compounds the problem. The why is obvious to me. Satan attacks and we all must do what is right to defend ourselves and our children from evil. If Satan could enter Judas while he was with Jesus, then how many others in our faith [no matter what faith] could he enter? My prayers are with all victims of physical, mental and emotional abuse.

dc

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Other Religions use the Name JEHOVAH too

by UnDisfellowshipped in

are jehovah's witnesses really the only religion that promotes and preaches the name of jehovah?.

jw's are always claiming that they are the only religion that preaches and uses the name jehovah, and that is why only they will be saved.

for example, look at this quote from the watchtower:.

TTWSYF

Other religions may use the name Jehovah, but no other faiths throw it in your face the way JWs do. Then to research it and find the truth, and then have to still say how Jehovah is the right way is a tough sell. don't ya think?

dc

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Lying for 'The Truth'?

by TTWSYF in

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friends

my bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.

is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?

talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.

TTWSYF

argh...just having issues confirming those websites from my posts...very sorry folks.

dc

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Lying for 'The Truth'?

by TTWSYF in

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friends

my bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.

is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?

talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.

TTWSYF

sorry, I missed org in the previous post

www.4jehovah.org/jehovahs-witnesses-history.php

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Help please - my wife wants a divorce

by IMHO in

i've read some old posts and they don't really fit my situation.. my wife just told me she wants a divorce and that's it after nearly 20 years., she doesn't want to try to work on it.. other posts talk about friends and family.

i have no family and no friends (due to a lot of traveling).. i went back to my hometown a year ago (after many years away) and even then old friends treated me as a stranger, like they've moved on.. i've had a lot of emotional / mental problems, basically a breakdown so have found it impossible to fulfill my role as a husband for many years, emotionally and physically and she said she's had enough, although she's never talked about it before.. she went out and had an unplanned one-night-stand.

i forgive me but she says she doesn't love me anymore.. we both find it very difficult to communicate our feelings.

TTWSYF

I'd say ;good luck;, but I know better with some of this crowd. ....prayer, lots of prayer asking God for answers. You would due better with prayer than with any advice I could give you on such a personal matter. We should all pray for you now. Think of everyone reading these posts praying for your intentions. Only good could come from such a thing, don;t ya think?

dc

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Lying for 'The Truth'?

by TTWSYF in

jw
friends

my bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.

is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?

talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.

TTWSYF

DPG, I know. Tell me about it. I hope I do not offend you by saying you may be wrong on one thing. You see, my JW brother constantly lies. He gave me the old -

“An appeal for understanding… Jehovah’s Witnesses organized a convention in Berlin, Germany, on June 25, 1933. Some 7,000 persons assembled… The immovable neutral position of the Witnesses, along with their loyalty to God’s Kingdom, was unacceptable to the Hitler government. The Nazis did not intend to tolerate any refusal to support their ideology.”—Awake! August 22, 1995, pp. 6-7

I found out [only after my brother kept constantly throwing anti-catholic/pro-watchtower doctrine my way. ] www.4jehovah.com/jehovahs-witness-history.php that those 7,000 people assembled as a pro-Nazi movement. Yearbook in 1934 stated that those JWs stood with the Nazi government and their anti-west/anti-Jewsish [banking] stance and priciples.

My bro read it, was deeply troubled by it when he confirmed it in www.archive.org/details/WatchtowerBibleandTractSocietyofPennsylvaniaWatchtowerpubs_0 which is an on-line JW publications library upto 1947.

Anywho, after he read it and [seemingly] accepted it, he still kept trying to perpetuate it, [gotta love his persistance ;'}, but... That's just awful, isn't it?. He knows it's a lie, yet he still 'lies for the Truth'. Even said he doesn't care that it's a lie. This is how he leads his family [wife and kids]. Needless to say, they are in great standing in their Kingdom Hall.

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Other Religions use the Name JEHOVAH too

by UnDisfellowshipped in

are jehovah's witnesses really the only religion that promotes and preaches the name of jehovah?.

jw's are always claiming that they are the only religion that preaches and uses the name jehovah, and that is why only they will be saved.

for example, look at this quote from the watchtower:.

TTWSYF

the name Jehovah comes from the traditions of men and not of the Almighty. It's a nickname that was added to a translation. Check your interliniar

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Lying for 'The Truth'?

by TTWSYF in

jw
friends

my bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.

is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?

talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.

TTWSYF

yes, thanks to Poppers and Asilentone too. Half hour long and lies start at 3min 30 seconds into it.

dc