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Homeschooling and JW children

by Pams girl in

how many jw kids are homeschooled where you are?

its not very common here in the borough where i live.

i just found out on the grapevine that a girl i know is taking her kids out of our very good primary school because she feels the other children are having such a bad influence on her kids.

My brother and sister in law home schooled thier kids. They made excuses that it was too hard for the kids to go through the school year with holidays and such. They home schooled and it was a disaster. They had to send the kids back after a couple of years. One got kept back and the other one dropped out. Poor habits that get impounded into their heads. They did end up getting their GEDs and getting some schooling under the belt [1 year course], but it was a struggle to get to that point.

The biggest problem with home schooling is that if you don't know the material that you're teaching or how to teach the material, [and that was the case with the parents] then you can't explain it to your students [kids].

Do your children a favor and let them 'learn' in a real school. just [humble?]my opinion.

dc

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Watchtower -

by jwfacts in

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by jwfacts in

TTWSYF

It is not a loose paraphrase in which the authors add ideas that they believe will be helpful. Reasoning from the Scriptures 1985 p276-277

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How big is apostasy?

by Knowsnothing in

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friends

in the short time i've lurked and been on here, i've seen a couple of new people join, and tell their experiences.

my question is, how big is apostasy in numbers?

could we take a rough guess?

TTWSYF

about 8 " on a good day you mean

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Is "Lying for the Truth" a real expression among JW's or just something apostates or worldlies made up?

by InterestedOne in

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although i've read some of the "theocratic war strategy" articles, etc., i have heard some on here use the expression "lying for the truth.

" is that an expression jw's say among themselves?

also, does it appear in an article anywhere?.

TTWSYF

My experiences with JWs [at the door] is that the lies come within the first few moments. And I'm not talking about withholding that they are JWs, I mean blatant lies like 'Jesus never told Peter that he was the rock that he'd build his Church on' or 'Peter wasn't a pope [the pope, bishop of Rome, etc].

Now if you do not have the knowledge of the scriptures and someone comes to your door with books and a bible and throws out some randon scriptural references, you would maybe tend to believe them, otherwise, how could so many former Catholics/Protestants be JWs? The more informed one is on the Church, the scriptures, and the early Christain writers, the more the lies stand out and thus WTS credibility crumbles.

respectfully,

dc

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Is "Lying for the Truth" a real expression among JW's or just something apostates or worldlies made up?

by InterestedOne in

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friends

although i've read some of the "theocratic war strategy" articles, etc., i have heard some on here use the expression "lying for the truth.

" is that an expression jw's say among themselves?

also, does it appear in an article anywhere?.

TTWSYF

Interested One, if you wanna see an example of 'lying for the truth' there are many sources to choose from, but I doubt you would find the term in any Watchtower or Awake.

A big example of 'lying for the truth' [to me anyway] is the booklet 'Should you believe in the Trinity?'

Numerous quotes are taken out of context and no footnotes are ever produced. The booklet speaks highly of these early christain writers. When referencing the Early Church Fathers they site [6] early writers-Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origen, Hippolytus, Clement of Alexandria, and Tertullian - all portrayed as being against Jesus's divinity.

The reality is that everyone of these men affirmed that Jesus was God. Several even gave detailed teachings and explainations about the Trinity.

And according to Jason Evert ['Answering Jehovah's Witnesses' pg 62, 2001- Catholic Answers, inc] 'it is also significant that Ignatius of Antioch (the apostle John's own disciple) is omitted from the list, for his letters refer seven times to Jesus as God'

Is that an example of 'Lying for the Truth?'

dc

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Lying for 'The Truth'?

by TTWSYF in

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my bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.

is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?

talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.

TTWSYF

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Is "Lying for the Truth" a real expression among JW's or just something apostates or worldlies made up?

by InterestedOne in

jw
friends

although i've read some of the "theocratic war strategy" articles, etc., i have heard some on here use the expression "lying for the truth.

" is that an expression jw's say among themselves?

also, does it appear in an article anywhere?.

TTWSYF

I often refer to lying for the' TRUTH ' tm as that was what my JW brother told me was the term used amongst themselves. He regretted it the moment he let it slip for obvious reasons.

I started a post about it a year ago or so and I couldn't believe the amount of people who came to it's defense. People likened it to a government that lied to it's people to keep panic down or to not give the enemy the right info in order to protect itself and other such nonsense.

Really, what legitimate organization, [business or religion] could have 'lying for the truth' as an operating proceedure?

dc