I agree with Smiddy in so much as
If there was a great apostasy in the early church, then how could you trust the bible to be God's word when the final collection of biblical books were confirmed around 393ad?
Makes no sense at all
a while ago i posted on another thread that i had been told by some witnesses that the tetragrammaton had been in the original christian greek scriptures but had been removed when apostacy came into the church .
i did not know where this came from at the time .however while looking something else up i came across this .as i could not find the original thread i have started a new one .here is a quote from nwt reference edition 1984 :-.
" matthew made more than a hundred quotations from the inspired hebrew scriptures.
I agree with Smiddy in so much as
If there was a great apostasy in the early church, then how could you trust the bible to be God's word when the final collection of biblical books were confirmed around 393ad?
Makes no sense at all
so the walking dead season 5 has finished??.
now what am i going to do if i want to watch brain dead rotten corpses attack the living and suck the life out of them??.
oh, no hang on...it's ok.....i can just watch the gb on jw.tv.org!.
if you can trade up to watching a deceiving display of distortion and fraud clothed under the guise of legalistic morality.......
I am of course referring to 'better call Saul'
who'd you think I meant?
just asking
okay so the number is literal but them coming out of israel is not?
huh?
what am i missing?
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
okay so the number is literal but them coming out of israel is not?
huh?
what am i missing?
Is the number really literal?
Christ said to forgive your brother 70 x 7 times a day. That means that you don't forgive him 71 times?
just asking
as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
To me [a revert to the church], the reason that I left my faith in the first place was because of WTS lies. The 'should you believe in the trinity' booklet and other attacks to my faith from the WTS made me doubt what I believed. As a result, I had to do my own research to determine what was true and what was 'lying for the TRUTH' tm.
WTS deserves ALL of the bad press that it gets on this board.
Any organization that promotes lying because it's own doctrine cannot stand on it's own is deserving of all attacks.
just my humble opinion.
i was reading the bart's answer to terry on th name "jehovah", and i remembered that when i did my personal study about the church fathers of the second century i found that justin martyr ignored the divine name:.
from the first apology of justin martyr:.
... and as many virtues as are peculiar to a god who is called by no proper name.
Jesus of course
...sorry for killing this thread..
i was reading the bart's answer to terry on th name "jehovah", and i remembered that when i did my personal study about the church fathers of the second century i found that justin martyr ignored the divine name:.
from the first apology of justin martyr:.
... and as many virtues as are peculiar to a god who is called by no proper name.
One name is above all others. Only one name to call to be saved. One judgement from one name.
What was that name again?
just asking....
i'm just wondering if the theocratic warfare doctrine is anywhere in writing or if it's a word-of-mouth kind of thing where it's mentioned at elder's school, but not put in writing.. anyone?.
Theocratic warfare was first described to me as 'Lying for the truth'
My elder JW brother couldn't see the contradiction in such a statement
sad
jesus ate with common sinners declaring that they were in (matt 21:31).. jesus denounced religious leaders declaring that they were out (matt 23 esp v15).. still the watchtower persists in making their own determinations, according to their own rules, who is in and who is out (prov 17:15).
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this is why the apostate watchtower ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy surreptitiously and contemptuously hate and obfuscate the unabridged gospel which teaches that a right and clean standing is imputed on the basis of grace (faith) and not merit (works).. are their similar instances that come to mind for you?.