my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.
so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.
just asking....sincerely.
My brother says ''we're the only ones going door to door restoring God's name"
I explained that going door to door is a work and not a fruit. It is a poor work at best as how many people has he converted? What are the fruits? TO which he has no answer
i remember seeing the ex-jws parading around outside the assembly like lepers holding placards of hate.
we were the righteous and enlightened ones... and they were lost in outer darkness.
just dont look at them was the standard response to their unwelcome presence..
I have never been a JW, but I am angry at the WTS. Angry at the arrogance and ignorance. Lying for the truth and such. Wolf in sheeps clothing at the door. Talking about the bible, but twisting it to fit their own membership drive. Effing disgrace!
I'm angry that they converted my brother and his family and took them away from their extended family with lies and scripture twisting. Lies that have people who were JWs now looking at the bible with skepticism as well as the WTS.
His life has steadily gone down hill since kingdom hall membership. He lost his business, then a good job. He had property that he lost and is a shell of his former self. His wife and kids too.
They all need help yet are above the rest of us because they have 'The Truth'.
It is very sad and discouraging. Oh, how I wish they would fade or just leave.
Not angry at JWs, just their org.
we all hear this notion of "theocratic warfare", and how it is used to justify jehovah's witnesses to lie or withhold the truth even under oath, based on the reasoning that we don't owe the truth to those who aren't entitled to it.
but, can we put our finger on where this doctrine started?
well, brace yourselves, here it is.
How could ANYONE trust an organization that says that you can lie about your faith if it brings in more people.
My brother regrets telling me of the policy called 'lying for the truth'.
At first, I thought there's no way that an organization that refers to itself as 'the truth' would allow a policy of lying for the truth.
Toned down to 'theocratic warfare' doesn't help because our warfare should be against evil and not people who are made in the image and likeness of God.
just mho
witnesses are not supposed to stand for the national anthem but can stand for a flag salute.. you can't say bless you if someone sneezes, good luck!, or " you too" if someone says, happy holidays.. it is a religion of cannot dos.
everything is pagan and worldly.. what are things that are unacceptable to jehovah's witnesses that really are no big deal to everyone else?
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my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.
so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.
just asking....sincerely.
disposable hero, you said it all with this.
I can only speak from my own standpoint.
I haven't suffered at the hands of the bOrg (except for my lack of education),
Lack of education is the biggest violence against a person that can be.
In America, African and island slaves were kept ignorant to control them. Once they became educated, their lives [and everyone else s'] become much better. Critical thinking helps people for life. All people.
just saying
my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.
so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.
just asking....sincerely.
I can agree with you disposable hero. Many people here [and at the kingdom halls] are good decent, God fearing folks who want to know and love God. My brother is a good and decent man who loves his family and friends at his cog. There are just many things that the org does to corrupt his Christianity in my opinion.
Attacking every other faith as Satans' is bad fruit in my opinion.
my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.
so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.
just asking....sincerely.
I was thinking 'the largest publisher in the world' was the best I could come up with,
one eye, freegirl and Johnny have the rotten fruit examples..
my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.
so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.
just asking....sincerely.
My brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'
So,my question is What are the JW fruits?
just asking....sincerely
it's an article of faith.
either god is going to save them or he is not.
since one local elder proudly told me that he never saved a nickel until just before his retirement, i've given this subject some thought.. savers are worldly..
Just what I was thinking Calebs Airplane. And then to add 1 john 2;17 at the end to try to add some legitimate weight to the awful suggestion of selling everything that you have.
Notice that the WTS didn't say to give it to the poor.
What fruits do the WTS produce?
just asking
i was baptised on 1st sept 1990, 25years ago today.
it is still a date with deep meaning for me.
i never dedicated my life to serving any man or any organisation, this was my choice - as a grown adult - to serve my god through jesus christ.
GIftsinmen, I am sorry that you had to endure the lies of the WTS. Some people have found comfort in reading the bible without the distortions, half truths/half lies and out right manipulation that the WTS inserts in the true word of God.
You;ll probably find that you have to overcome thoughts and ideas that have been crammed down your throat for years. With time and research, you'll find that you'll be able to move on and find a balance of life and prayer.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and everyone else who now feels "Where could I go?"
Answer= forward
