Jehovahs Witnesses and Conditional Love

by Christian Gutierrez in

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a hey guys this is a short story of a witness who could never find unconditional love kfrom the congregation and family members.

cheers!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjv5pdkqicm.

TTWSYF

I have heard many a JW speak about love that they have for each other. They speak of the bible verse stating that you will be known by your love. Then there are the examples that they say about how this one helped that one and how they showed charity to one another.

The only problem that I have with such things is that this love is only shown to other JWs [in good standing]

There is no love for others who share this planet with them. NO love for neighbors, not even those that the bible says to help like orphans, widows, elderly, the poor and the sick.

TTWSYF

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I hate the Watchtower but I really still hate the Trinity Jesus is NOT God!

by Witness 007 in

some bibles use the term "worship" when refering to jesus...at times people did fall down and bow to him........this doesn't show he was god!

the greek term; proskeyneo, means to prostrate oneself, to bow down and show honour.

now, this was done for jehovah.....and his representatives....jesus israelite kings and priests....but for the honour of jehovah not as creature worship which even angels would refuse.. also i studied the non-biblical early church gospels which really does show a slow decline over 150 years, into the trinity as the watchtower claims...........although i still hate the watchtower society at least i learnt something that wasn't a lie..

TTWSYF

Village Idiot2 days ago

When I think of the Trinity I'm amused by the fact that the "Holy Spirit" has no personality whatsoever.

I'm not wanting to pick on you VI, just want to bring some scriptures to light that contradict your position. It is my opinion [and many others] that the Holy Ghost has the attributes of a person and does have a personality.

The HG [Holy Ghost] is referred to as 'HE' through out the scriptures. He loves [Rom 15;30], he teaches [Luke 12;12], He has impulses[John 16;13] He appoints and calls to ministry [Acts 13;2] He thinks [Acts 15;25,28] can be blasphemed-worth mentioning that only God can be blasphemed [Matt 12;31,32], He pleads [Rom 8;26,27] and longs or yearns [James 4;5] He can be insulted [aside from these types of OPs] [Heb 10;29] and he agrees [1John 5;7,8]. All of these types of things are the attributes of a person and not a force. For example, you can't offend a force, but you can a person. Someone who thinks, loves and guides must have a personality as opposed to simply being an active force. In my kinda humble opinion.

The Truth Will Set You Free

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the archangel, an archangel

by AmyWatson916 in

i'm reading a book called "what to do when they knock" that goes over the jw book "what does the bible really teach?".

it points out that the "bible really teach" book, on page 218, makes a bit of a point about there being only one archangel.

it says michael is "the archangel" and emphasizes that "the" means only one.

TTWSYF

It's not in the NWT, but In the book of Tobit, the arch angel Rafael says that he is one of seven who stands before the Lord.

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Pray for all people, especially our leaders? That's what the bible says

by TTWSYF in

from 1timothy chapt 2. the first to timothy.

2 first of all, then, i urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high positions,*+ so that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with complete godly devotion and seriousness.+ 3 this is fine and acceptable in the sight of our savior, god,+ 4 whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved+ and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

5 for there is one god,+ and one mediator+ between god and men,+ a man, christ jesus,+ 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all*+—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.

TTWSYF

This scripture makes me wonder how a Jw does (or former Jw did) reconcile not voting. Pray for your leaders, but do nothing else? Don't vote or call or engage your leaders in any way?

Makes no sense, more like very dense.

The Truth Will Set You Free

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Pray for all people, especially our leaders? That's what the bible says

by TTWSYF in

from 1timothy chapt 2. the first to timothy.

2 first of all, then, i urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high positions,*+ so that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with complete godly devotion and seriousness.+ 3 this is fine and acceptable in the sight of our savior, god,+ 4 whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved+ and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

5 for there is one god,+ and one mediator+ between god and men,+ a man, christ jesus,+ 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all*+—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.

TTWSYF

From 1Timothy chapt 2

The First to Timothy

2 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high positions,*+ so that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with complete godly devotion and seriousness.+ 3 This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God,+ 4 whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved+ and come to an accurate knowledge of truth. 5 For there is one God,+ and one mediator+ between God and men,+ a man, Christ Jesus,+ 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all*+—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time. 7 For the purpose of this witness+ I was appointed a preacher and an apostle+—I am telling the truth, I am not lying—a teacher of nations+ in the matter of faith and truth.