what are the craziest or most daming watchtowers ever printed?

by Tobyjones262 in

so what is your favorite crazy or most damning watchtower?

i can think of a few but one i went out and bought the bound vol for was the 1984 the generation that will not pass away.

.

TTWSYF

Should you believe in the Trinity was a crazy booklet that was taken out of circulation because of its blatant lies and distortions

15

Whom shall we follow for Bible-based truths?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

watchtower february 15, 1981, pages 16-19 .

do we need help to understand the bible?.

true, the brothers preparing these publications are not infallible.

Whom shall we follow for Bible-based truths?

Hmmm, how about the people who gave us the bible? Wouldn't it make perfect sense to ask the people who gave the world the bible for direction in it's meaning?

If I were to ask a person about the book 'Insight into the scriptures', should I ask a Mormon or a Muslim or the WTS? Of course, it's a WTS book. They would be the best to direct me to it's meaning.

If I want to know about the bible, I ask the folks who gave the world the bible. Sorry, but it's the Catholics

guess what. Not the WTS

7

Have they discovered a loophole for lying in the name of Jehovah and getting away with it?

by TerryWalstrom in

let's put first things first.

ask the average bible reader to name the prophets.

easy peasy!.

TTWSYF

Waton, I agree that a fallen angel [dark spirit] can/will lie, but I do not think that a prophet of God or a mouthpiece of God has ever lied in the scriptures.

of course, we know that this isn't true for the self proclaimed mouthpiece of God aka the Watchtower

7

Have they discovered a loophole for lying in the name of Jehovah and getting away with it?

by TerryWalstrom in

let's put first things first.

ask the average bible reader to name the prophets.

easy peasy!.

TTWSYF

Was there ever a prophet who used theocratic warfare?

Just asking

31

Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Ever Do Anything For Anyone But Themselves?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i was thinking of how witnesses were always admonished to take care of their own before they should ever help a worldly neighbor.

i don’t think they ever do anything for the community unless it’s a benefit to them..

TTWSYF

I always hear about the love that they have for each other, in their own cong,

Hearing about love for your neighbor, the enemy? ..not so much

51

I am a proud Jehovah's Witness Defender

by Matthew Jefferson in

my name is matthew j and i have just ended my study with the jehovah's witnesses.

no, i did not stop studying because i believe the jehovah's witnesses are a 'cult', i left due to the minor beliefs that i hold that remain separate from the organization.

i called my elder who is still an amazing man and great counselor, affirming that i do not wish to continue my studying.

TTWSYF

5 pages of BS, stop the insanity now please...

11

Jesus confuses his apostles about baptism

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

jesus's apostles were confused by some of his sayings.

they didn't understand the true sense of what jesus was trying to tell them about baptism.

"no one'', he said, ''would get the true meaning of this scripture until a modern day "organization" in the 21st century rises up and reveals the truth.".

TTWSYF

My bad Rules and Regs.

Of course, now I see that it was tongue in cheek. I am so jaded on this site that I think everyone is engaged in 'theocratic warfare'

11

Jesus confuses his apostles about baptism

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

jesus's apostles were confused by some of his sayings.

they didn't understand the true sense of what jesus was trying to tell them about baptism.

"no one'', he said, ''would get the true meaning of this scripture until a modern day "organization" in the 21st century rises up and reveals the truth.".

TTWSYF

Rules and Regs - Yes, I was a bit cheeky, but not tongue in cheek.

John P- You are indeed correct that I have made a mistake. Clement of Rome was a disciple of Paul, not Peter. My bad. Other than that, I believe my claims are correct.

Have you really read their writings ? or have you just read 'Should you believe in the trinity' booklet and that was your source of their writings? Just asking because It's not a legend that those anti nicene fathers were directly taught by those apostles, historically speaking, Clement of Rome was the 3rd bishop of Rome after Peter, then Linus. it's a historical fact. Over 30k of written pages preserved from the early church that , of course, do not have the authority of the scriptures, but do have the authority of history.

I am currently reading Four Witnesses -The Early Church in Her Own Words by Rod Bennett

Check it out on Amazon. Hundreds of 5 star reviews, one 1 star review..... from a JW.

Check out another book The oldest book written of the early church 325ad History of the Church written by Eusebius Pamphilus

Eusibius writes that Clement is indeed one of the workers with Paul who 'labored side by side in the gospel' and 'whose names are in the book of life'

admittedly, I am a novice on my scholarly research. We are only as smart as our sources. I now know that out of the 40k or so Christian denominations, that 39,999 were started by men [and] or women. Only one was started by Christ Jesus and commissioned by Jesus to spread His gospel Mathew Ch 28

The Great Commission
…18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father,and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”…

11

Jesus confuses his apostles about baptism

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

jesus's apostles were confused by some of his sayings.

they didn't understand the true sense of what jesus was trying to tell them about baptism.

"no one'', he said, ''would get the true meaning of this scripture until a modern day "organization" in the 21st century rises up and reveals the truth.".

TTWSYF

lol, only in watchtower world are the apostles confused,

If you read the writings of Ignatius of Antioch [disciple of the apostle John] or Clement of Rome [disciple of the apostle Peter] you'd see that it's pretty clear that they were not confused about being baptized.

We are only as smart as our sources of information. The more sources of information, the better.

If the WTS is your only source, then , yes, you'd be confused.

The Truth Will Set You Free

32

How Would You Help A JW. Recognize They Do Not Have The Truth?

by minimus in

jw
friends

every witness says they are “ in the truth”.

that expression implies that what they say is the “truth “.

how could you help a witness understand that they clearly do not have “the truth “?.

TTWSYF

Great question, Believe me, I wish I knew. I do know this though.

A person MUST be ready to hear the truth before they could possibly accept the truth.

A person needs to have their own questions first. What questions would have a believing JW question their faith in the WTS? They need doubt that what they took as rock solid has been shaken.

When ever I read about a former JW coming to their senses, i find different things shake different people.

I find that rarely is it a doctrinal problem. For example, there are so many biblical references that prove the WTS as a false prophet or at best, very very erroneous interpreters of the faith. To me, if that doesn't make one question, then what would? Then I read about some obscure, almost menial issue that makes one question. I am left scratching my head as to, "How did that little thing make them wake up?"

I think a person must be ready from their own experiences before they can recognize that they don't have the truth.

Just my humble opinion.

TTWSYF

TTWSYF

Posts by TTWSYF

Whom shall we follow for Bible-based truths?