99.9% Christianity accepts the trinity. I wonder why?
NO I don't..lol
simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.
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so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.
99.9% Christianity accepts the trinity. I wonder why?
NO I don't..lol
highly illuminating video.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkhdyhmolmw.
i thought these bible cryptologists were all nuts.
this guy changed my mind..
Never checked scholarly sources for information on the formation, propagation and reasoning for why and how the scriptures were created and historically have been used?
lol
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i’m reservations, pimo elder.
i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?
any ideas?.
The same way that everyone else does. You set the example with actions always...sometimes add words too..
The Truth Will Set You Free
alright this has been in my brain lately: both catholic church and the orthodox church has been around for about 2000 years, shouldn't they know how to practice christendom correctly by now?
jw hasn't even been around for 200 years and yet they say they do it right.
so silly of them.
On the one hand, you have the
Catholic Church started by Jesus and His chosen apostles.
On the other hand you have the
WTS started by Charles Taze Russell
hmmm, you may be on to something...
many jws (and others) are serious about their biblical studies, but don't ask the right questions.
in basic journalism one learns to ask the right questions which in my years here, i've never hear asked.. who, what, where, by what help, by whose help, why, how and when.
these are all basic questions when researching anything that you want to write an article or paper on what ever related subject.. who wrote/created the bible?.
Many JWs (and others) are serious about their biblical studies, but don't ask the right questions. In basic journalism one learns to ask the right questions which in my years here, I've never hear asked.
Who, what, where, by what help, by whose help, why, how and when. ?
These are all basic questions when researching anything that you want to write an article or paper on what ever related subject.
Who wrote/created the bible?
What is the bible?
Why are there only 66 books in the bible (why not more or less)?
How were the scriptures used in Christ Jesus's time?
many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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Its like Russel wasn't really a well studied bible scholar/theologian but a turn of the century charlatan.
Bingo Rocketman. Ever hear of Russell's 'magic wheat'?
here is an interesting discussion about how christianity probably began.
hierarchical political interest may have been involved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=civ8gscbo_g.
Polycarp claimed to be a disciple of the apostle John, yes. I don't accept that claim and I'm skeptical of it but that's what he said. He told some story about him and John fleeing the heretic Cerinthus in a bathhouse in Ephesus.
Anyway, I don't take those 12 claims as facts, which is the problem we're having.
How about Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, Irenaeus of Lyons or Justin Martyr? Do you accept any of those writers? They all write about the early church and the widely accepted facts of the time and reference the biblical 500 witnesses. There are literally 10s of thousands of written pages [intact] of early Christian writers from the 1st 3 centuries of AD Their writings answer many of these questions.
TTWSYF
remember when nixon resigned?
the big a was here some said.
remember 1986 and the "international year of peace and security?
Armageddon is coming for you.
No one gets out alive.
And when you die and stand before the Lord for judgement, believe me, it will be the end of the world that you currently live in.
Worrying about everyone on the planet dying and not worrying about yourself dying is a most interesting mental syndrome.
ttwsyf
as a rule, there are 3 types.
one is the dramatic over the top person where a hangnail means you might have to get your finger cut off.. the second type is —who me, worry?
i’m not going to let too much of anything bother me unless it really is armageddon.. the third type is the person in between.
Actually, there are only 2 types of people
1-alive
2 dead
nwt luke chapt 1.
41 well, as elizabeth heard the greeting of mary, the infant in her womb leaped, and elizabeth was filled with holy spirit 42 and loudly cried out: “blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruitage of your womb!
43 so how is it that this privilege is mine, to have the mother of my lord come to me?
Jifo- I hadn't read the WTS position on calling Mary 'Woman", however I have heard the reference before from JWs as a claim against honoring Mary and always seemed to be in the context of Jesus being annoyed with his mother. My point is that it never happened as it was explained. Jesus was never disrespectful to or of his mother.
Oh, and I forgot to mention - there is a difference between honoring a person and religiosity venerating a person. The Bible says to honor your mother - not pray to your mother nor put up a statue in the likeness of your mother and prostrate yourself before it.
Actually the bible speaks a lot about the saints in heaven bringing the prayers of the faithful to God. It says the same thing of the angels. That they bring the prayers of the faithful to God. How could THEY have these prayers if they were not prayed to.
Pray does NOT mean worship. Pray means to ask. We associate it with worship as we are always asking God for blessing for ourselves and others. If an attorney asks 'I pray the court consider these facts' is the attorney worshipping the courts? 'I pray that this council hears my petitions' Am I worshipping a council or merely asking for consideration? See the diff? Prayer is asking, not worship. I could ask Moses or King David or one of the apostles or some other saint to ask God for favor only because the prayer of the righteous has more weight.
As far as statues or other artwork used in prayer and worship, this is totally biblical as the instructions from God involving the preparing the holy or holies involved angels being embraided onto drapes and the intricate details of the ark of the covenant prove that the worship of these things are forbidden, not the use in remembrance as they are used in some churches.
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