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  Scriptures That Don’t Fit WT Theology

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here’s a couple good ones: a. jesus said, “come to me and i will give you rest”.. why did jesus command us to go to him and not jehovah?.

  why does the bible say that the name of jesus is above every name?

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  Blotty, I am only listing scriptures that are in keeping with the tread. If you want to open a trinitarian tread, I will reply.

  That said

  Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.

  This says that God [the Father] dwells in believers.

  
  

  And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

  This says that HE, the holy ghost, dwells in believers.

  
  

  I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me.

  This passage says that Jesus dwells in believers.

  
  

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  Scriptures That Don’t Fit WT Theology

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here’s a couple good ones: a. jesus said, “come to me and i will give you rest”.. why did jesus command us to go to him and not jehovah?.

  why does the bible say that the name of jesus is above every name?

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  Who raised Jesus?

  New International Version
  Paul, an apostle--sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead.

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  and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead--Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.

  These 2 passages say that God raised Jesus from the dead.

  New International Version
  And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.

  This passage says that the Holy Ghost raised Jesus.

  New International Version
  The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life--only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

  This passage says that Jesus raised himself.

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  Should Jehovah's Witnesses Trust the Governing Body?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if there is evidence that jesus invisibly chose specific men at headquarters in brooklyn new york in 1919 to be his faithful slave and that mandate and ability passed on to future directors...then the answer might just be a resounding maybe.. what is the evidence for this invisible appointment and what is the evidence that this is just watchtower mythology?.

  i hope jws like scholar and fisherman will explain why the trust the gb.. i must be honest, i see no evidence at all to put trust in either the 1919 selection or the current men taking the lead in warwick.

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  To me it's a question of authority. Who has the authority to teach what the bible actually is?

  Is it these men in Brooklyn? How or why? They didn't choose the books that the bible contains, did they?

  Isn't it right to go to where the bible came from to get an accurate teaching?

  The fact is that the bible is a catholic book. The books contained in the bible were voted on by way of a council of catholic bishops, Several councils in fact voted on which books should be included and which ones should be deleted.

  source-google, msn and other internet providers.

  The Truth Will Set You Free
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  Living your life according to the bible

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard it said [numerous times] that jws live their life according to the bible.. i have also heard [numerous times] that jws have restored the correct christian practice following the great apostasy [?which is a different topic].

  my question is 'is there any proof anywhere in history where jewish or christian people lived their life according to the scriptures?".

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  So to answer one who agrees the subject title

  Bluesbrother wrote

  Uncountable numbers of people have endeavoured to live their lives according to Scriptures.

  That may or may not be true. Can you site an example of any religious organization [prior to the WTS] promoting that practice? I have not found this teaching anywhere in history prior to the 19th century American bible boom. Please cite any examples that I may have missed.

  
  I would cite the family of Jesus who made the sacrifices, observed the festivals etc of the Jewish scriptures. I can’t imagine Joseph being unscrupulous in his dealings with others . In the early Christian world a lot met their death in the arena rather than violate their beliefs

  Living according to righteousness is NOT strictly living according to the scriptures.

  The scriptures in Jesus's time [and today too] were read aloud in worship at the Synagogue through today in Church[s]. It was never a complete guide to faithful life. It included worship,a record of history of a race of people, a guide on cleansing and diet. Laws , etc

  Today millions of Christian people believe they are living the right way , the trouble is the application of Bible principles. e.g. A JW would not vote or stand for office because he must be “ no part of the world “ . However , a Mormon may tell you that it is Christian duty to do so , for the good of the community.

  History teached all the way back to the apostles that the right way to live as a Christian is to do ALL that Jesus instructed us to do. Jesus NEVER said look to the scriptures as a guide for living, he DID say to do all that he told us to.

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  Living your life according to the bible

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard it said [numerous times] that jws live their life according to the bible.. i have also heard [numerous times] that jws have restored the correct christian practice following the great apostasy [?which is a different topic].

  my question is 'is there any proof anywhere in history where jewish or christian people lived their life according to the scriptures?".

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  sorry, meant TBK
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  Living your life according to the bible

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard it said [numerous times] that jws live their life according to the bible.. i have also heard [numerous times] that jws have restored the correct christian practice following the great apostasy [?which is a different topic].

  my question is 'is there any proof anywhere in history where jewish or christian people lived their life according to the scriptures?".

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  TNK,

  Jesus read the scriptures in the synagogue while teaching. OT was available and widely circulated during Jesus's life.

  He read and told his 'congregation' that the scriptures he read one day referred to himself. His congregation wanted to kill him immediately after as I recall
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  Living your life according to the bible

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard it said [numerous times] that jws live their life according to the bible.. i have also heard [numerous times] that jws have restored the correct christian practice following the great apostasy [?which is a different topic].

  my question is 'is there any proof anywhere in history where jewish or christian people lived their life according to the scriptures?".

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  I have heard it said [numerous times] that JWs live their life according to the bible.

  I have also heard [numerous times] that JWs have restored the correct Christian practice following the great apostasy [?which is a different topic]

  My question is 'Is there any proof anywhere in history where Jewish or Christian people lived their life according to the Scriptures?"

  Thanks,

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  Prayer for every day

  by May1981 in

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  i pray for every person in the world.

  you can also join my prayer.

  and may the creator hear our prayers.

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  HI May, Welcome!

  I'm in. Prayers for the whole world is good [real] Christian thing!

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  Did you at one time Believe-that you were not going to die. Does your still in JW spouse still believe?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this magazine says it all!.

  and many of the older jws believed at one point in their life that they would make it through the great tribulation and into the 1000 year reign of christ without dying.

  which is why so many jws stayed in so long.. is the main reason why jws ignore all the child abuse, the end of door to door service, and the closing of kingdom hall for almost two years----because they still believe they will not die?.

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  THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STRAW ON THE PILE THAT PROVES HOW #^*%ING RIDICULOUS THIS SECT IS.

  Imagine thinking that you won't die. How can anyone forget that every living thing on this planet has a life span. Lives and dies, but some liar sold folks on this bullshit. Unbelievable really,.It really is.

  Right up there with 'we live our life according to the bible". Who does that? The scriptures aren't a guide to how to live. It was ALWAYS used liturgically for worship, not as a guide on what to do. Too many examples of what not to do to be a guide.

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  New World Translation is not much different other translations

  by Abraham1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  key scripture 2 timothy 3:16 should have been translated as “every scripture inspired of god is also profitable for teaching” like many other serious translations (such as american standard version ; douay-rheims bible etc) as it is what the greek text says.. this is in harmony with the contents of bible and also with the writer paul himself who knew after his departure ‘even from his own number men will arise and distort the truth.’ (acts 20:29-30) for example, verses such as romans 7:19 is such distortion.

  such verses cannot originate from real paul who was “holy, righteous and blameless.” (1 thessalonians 2:10) hence paul had the freeness of speech to tell others to be “blameless” like him (1 thessalonians 5:19-23; ephesians 5:24) there are many things in the scriptures which are not inspired such as words of satan, words of job’s wife and his false friends, words of judas, lot’s daughters …etc.

  apostle peter never disowned jesus because if he had done so, his contemporaries would have interrupted him when he rebuked jews, saying: “you disowned the holy and righteous one and asked that a murderer be released to you.“ (acts 3:14) his listeners would have asked him “what right do you have to reprove us for ‘disowning jesus” when you yourself have done it first?” all such verses or accounts were later adoptions.

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  New World Translation is not much different other translations

  except that no scholarly council, college, university, board or organization considers the NWT a legitimate translation.