lying is unfortunate fact of life, get used to it by now.
People lie, but it can't be a doctrine of faith as scripture is so strong against such a thing. Liars are the dogs and pigs which scripture talks about....imho
dc
Posts by TTWSYF
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40Lying for 'The Truth'?
by TTWSYF inmy bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.
is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?
talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.
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Lying for 'The Truth'?
by TTWSYF inmy bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.
is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?
talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.
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TTWSYF
I guess it was 'contradicting truth' lying to SS soldiers to keep them from rounding up Dubs for the concentrating camps. You're right, I guess I don't get it.
Well, that is people lying to protect themselves, is it not? You spoke of governments lying to protect secrets. That's more like SS troops telling the Jews, JWs, Gypsies, Catholics, artists, musicians etc etc that they were being bathed, not gassed.
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Lying for 'The Truth'?
by TTWSYF inmy bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.
is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?
talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.
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TTWSYF
The apologist side of me thinks it's no different than if you love your country and work for the CIA and are caught by the enemy.
You would naturally protect State secrets because of loyalty and you definitely would never voluntarily divulge any information.
God's truth could never be considered to be like state secrets. Goverments have state secrets and governments kill to keep state secrets, don't they? I guess I don't seed the logic in that explanation.
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"ABSTAIN from...fornication, and blood."
by wary inif fractions of blood are now allowed,.
by the same reasoning what fractions of fornication can i have?.
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TTWSYF
wrong answer TTWSWY if you follow WT reasoning! My bro and his family were converted to JWs and baptised for some 20 years. I was not going to become a Catholic apostate. I am still a Catholic. I know, I know that's my problem.
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Lying for 'The Truth'?
by TTWSYF inmy bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.
is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?
talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.
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TTWSYF
Yet, jws are told not to lie in court...but they can lie to other jws.
and to prospective converts too or to anyone who finds scriptual contridictions with the Watchtower promoted 'truths' it seems. If I'm wrong, please let me know. Thanks
dc
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"ABSTAIN from...fornication, and blood."
by wary inif fractions of blood are now allowed,.
by the same reasoning what fractions of fornication can i have?.
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TTWSYF
fornacation outside of a marrige well, yes. You are entitled to enjoy your spouse. that is why Paul speaks of those who have the fire [of passion] should marry and those who can live as he did should live without a spouse to give your all to the Lord. Right?
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Lying for 'The Truth'?
by TTWSYF inmy bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.
is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?
talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.
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TTWSYF
"Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine, that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open." (Mt 7:6) That is why Jesus on certain occasions refrained from giving full information or direct answers to certain questions when doing so could have brought unnecessary harm. (Mt 15:1-6; 21:23-27; Joh 7:3-10)
Yes, but those 'holy pearls' are examples of truth and not of lies, are they not? Doesn't that example show that you shouldn't waste speaking the truth on dogs or pigs? I don't see how that could be showing how you should 'lie for the truth'.
dc
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Lying for 'The Truth'?
by TTWSYF inmy bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.
is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?
talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.
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TTWSYF
How could God, who hates lies and liars, possibly charge his sole channel of communication such a thing?!
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"ABSTAIN from...fornication, and blood."
by wary inif fractions of blood are now allowed,.
by the same reasoning what fractions of fornication can i have?.
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TTWSYF
The bible states that fornacation outside of a marrige is/was and will always be wrong. There is no such command regarding blood transfusions. That is why there are no Jewish groups that forbid the practice of blood transfusions.
dc
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Lying for 'The Truth'?
by TTWSYF inmy bro introduced me to a concept called 'lying for the truth'.
is that actually something that the watchtower promotes?
talk about a contridiction, i didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so.
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TTWSYF
My bro introduced me to a concept called 'Lying for the Truth'. Is that actually something that the Watchtower promotes? Talk about a contridiction, I didn't think it could be true that such a practice would be tolerated, but he says so. Anyone else hear of such nonsense from the Watchtower?!
dc