Who created the world, forgives sins and gives eternal life?
Common sense answer= God
JW answer= Michael the Arch Angel [of course]
Wouldn't get too far with a mark on intial contact with that question.
dc
can you mention any or a list of questions?wanna right them down and ask a few jw's....curious of what is going to happen....
Who created the world, forgives sins and gives eternal life?
Common sense answer= God
JW answer= Michael the Arch Angel [of course]
Wouldn't get too far with a mark on intial contact with that question.
dc
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
so sorry. I didn't mean to kill the post.:(
dc
" {john 3:15 nwt}.
" {john 17:4 nwt} there's more yet!.
" {john 16:33 nwt}.
Far too long to even try to read. Just make your point, if you can and add to it as needed. I guess that is just too wordy for me.
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
Wow, that last post by Designs is kinda sad. Clearly you have been taken in by the WTS who would cite bad examples, who happen to be Catholic and make them the Catholic dogma. You may have to research these 'facts'.
The Cathecism of the Catholic Church is what the Church teaches. A Catholic encyclopedia may have common definitions of words, but not dogma, one would go to the Cathecism for teachings.
Easy enough to put to the test. I hope this isn't considered a hijack to ask, but......
Since this is a tread on most ignored scriptures by JWs, I would ask what [if any] are the scriptures that are ignored by the Catholic or Protestant Churches?
dc
after visiting with a couple of jws over the weekend; and for the first time talking about my true feelings about the org with active jws other than immediate fam, one of them mentioned something interesting.
when i talked about how with the constant changes to beliefs that i find it impossible to believe that the gb can be guided by the hs.
so one of the jws said, "other religions change doctrines around too.
Black Sheep - Good example. Further proof that the WTS does not practice what it preaches. Don't believe everything you read [unless it's in scripture], and certainly don't believe anything that's in the Watchtower about other faiths....including it's own.
The meat thing was never a mortal sin, I mean can you really imagine anyone actually believing that God would send folks to hell for eating meat on a friday?!
dc
is that really what happened with german jws?.
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dc.
Is that really what happened with German JWs?
dc
finally, i will look at biblical and patristic evidence bearing on the crucifixion of jesus in particular.
we need to examine the earliest known descriptions of the kind of crucifixion adopted by the romans and the specific terms they used to refer to it.
apparently the society believes that crux still meant "stake" in the second century a.d., when tacitus composed his annals.
Great post Ms Leo! So much reading, my poor bloodshot eyes :) I still didn;t have enough time to read every post on every page yet, so if I overlap someone's post, please forgive [as is the Christian way;}.
In very short terms - the reasoning from scriptures [1985 pgs 89-93] indicate that stauros means an upright pale or stake in classical Greek.
The problem is that the classical Greek hadn't been spoken for centuries by the time of Jesus. The bible is written in koine Greek [which is Hellenistic]. Stauros [in koine Greek] means 1]an upright stake with a cross beam above it.2] two intersecting beams of equal length, or 3] a vertical stake.
So, it is possible that could mean a vertical stake, but there is no evidence to support such a claim.
A better word for stake in koine Greek would have been skolops.
dc
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
designs wrote
So Stephen, why does the Trinity version of god like to appear to Catholics as a face on a burned Tortilla but in your Church he appears as a pulsating crotch on an old guy and as Miracle Rice Crispy's. How come the Fundamentalists never get the Tortilla version.
hmmmmm
The short answer is because Catholics have the truth and God lets them know by small signs and blessings.
We can all understand that you were taught that the trinity is false. It is truely up to us all to test the if we are in the faith. Scripture indicates that one God is made of three beings. The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are all called God in scripture. You think because the Father is called Almighty that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are lessor gods?
Should you believe in the Trinity indicates that there is no Trinity. Should you believe booklet is filled with lies. Not my opinion, that is a fact. If the Trinity was false, then why lie in a booklet? If it were false, one wouldn't have to lie about it, it would just be false.
The Church fathers believed in the trinity. They were taught by the apostles and they would defend against twisters of scripture.
One question for any anti trinitarian. If Jesus is a god and not God, then what kind of god is he, a true god or a false god?
dc
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
Plankton wrote
Any of YOU pray to "I AM? Did He say THAT Name would be His...FOREVER?
I would bet that the Jews who heard Moses speak of God prayed to I AM. I know for a fact that they did not pray to Jehovah, because that name was not in existince until the 13th century ad.
It is written what is written. What is written is the word of God. It seems that these scriptures don't agree with your mental taste, eh Plankton?
dc
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
Oh Plankton, will you ever learn that God hates lies.
There is no such thing as lying for the truth.
The apostles and their diciples would agressively defend against your exact type of scripture twisting.
dc