Posts by TTWSYF

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Did any bishops or cardinals change scripture during the early church years?

by TTWSYF in

i've read some of designs comments reference this topic more than once.. any proof of such a claim?.....real, scholarly, proof, something other than a copy and posted watchtower or awake please.. dc.

TTWSYF

Good points made by all. So it appears that there is no proof that scriture was tampered with, but obviously, [plenty of] opinion on it.

Something that I'm surprised at is that no one has brought up is that the whole bible [not just the new testament] is all based on an oral tradition. Moses wrote the first 5 books of the old testament generations after Adam and Eve, Noah, Jacob, Abraham, Joseph etc etc. all based on the oral traditions. The apostles write thanks for keeping the traditions that they had handed down so why would anyone believe that it could possibly be the word of God based on such loose guidelines?

I believe it is because there is no other book [ancient or otherwise] which moves people to such a degree. There is a reason that the bible is the most popular book in the world. The reason is because it is the word of God and when ever someone tries to change it, people [who know, who have the Holy Ghost alive in them] shout and make it known that there is a problem. Of course that is my catholic view. No offense to anyones opinion intended.

respectfully,

dc

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The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

by theMadJW in

http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

TTWSYF

Plankton, Plankton, Plankton. Let's read your propaganda shall we?

Since Jesus returned invisibly in1914, he will have no visible 2nd coming. Just as Jesus went away quietly, secretly, so far as the world was concerned, in this manner he comes again. He did not rise physically, so he will not return physically. Let God be true 1946 p186, Studies in the Scriptures 1889 2:154

The bible proves that Jesus 2nd presence began in 1874. Prophesy 1929 p65

hahahahahahahaahaha

again, scriptures say something totally different.

NWT Mathew chap24 vs 36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be.

NWT Mathew chap vs 30 And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

NWT Hebrews 9 ; 28 so also the Christ was offered once for all time to bear the sins of many; and the second time that he appears it will be apart from sin and to those earnestly looking for him for [their] salvation.

NWT Rev 1 7 Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen.

dc

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Who was Your Fav Witch?

by Darth plaugeis in

lots of witch talk don't know why hahaaha.

some were good.

some were bad.

TTWSYF

I'm looking for the medium from the Nicole Kidman movie 'The Others"....anyone?

dc

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Did any bishops or cardinals change scripture during the early church years?

by TTWSYF in

i've read some of designs comments reference this topic more than once.. any proof of such a claim?.....real, scholarly, proof, something other than a copy and posted watchtower or awake please.. dc.

TTWSYF

I've read some of Designs comments reference this topic more than once.

Any proof of such a claim?.....real, scholarly, proof, something other than a copy and posted Watchtower or awake please.

dc

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The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

by theMadJW in

http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

TTWSYF

Jes' Plankton, Don't you have anything better to do kid? This getting quite sad.

dc

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The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

by theMadJW in

http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

TTWSYF

MadJW, The apostate doctrine of the immortality of the soul is another of Christiandom's unscriptural traditions stemming from Greek philosophy. 'For the living are conscience that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscience of nothing at all' [eccl 9;5]. The doctrine of the inherent immortality of the soul is the main one that the devil has used down through the ages to decieve people and holding them in bondage to religion. Reasoning from scriptures 1985, 375-380.

I was so confused as the soul [nephesh in Hebrew and psuche in Greek] is referenced over 900 times in the bible. How easy it now is to know that the soul can be summed up in only one scripture. hmmm, but what about these other scriptures like

NWT Gen 35 17-20 17 But so it was that while she had difficulty in making the delivery the midwife said to her: “Do not be afraid, for you will have this son also.” 18 And the result was that as her soul was going out (because she died) she called his name Ben-o´ni; but his father called him Benjamin. 19 Thus Rachel died and was buried on the way to Eph´rath, that is to say, Beth´le·hem. 20 Hence Jacob stationed a pillar over her grave. This is the pillar of Rachel’s grave down to this day.

NWT 1Kings 17 21 And he proceeded to stretch himself upon the child three times and call to Jehovah and say: “O Jehovah my God, please, cause the soul of this child to come back within him.” [why did he do that 3x?]dc

NWT Rev 6 9 And when he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those slaughtered because of the word of God and because of the witness work that they used to have. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying: “Until when, Sovereign Lord holy and true, are you refraining from judging and avenging our blood upon those who dwell on the earth?” 11 And a white robe was given to each of them; and they were told to rest a little while longer, until the number was filled also of their fellow slaves and their brothers who were about to be killed as they also had been.

dc

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For Perry: There was no global flood, so stop looking for Noah's Ark

by BurnTheShips in

forget about noahs ark; there was no worldwide flood.

many people have contacted me about the recent claims by a group called noahs ark ministries international.1 the evangelical organization claims to have discovered noahs ark.2 i have responded on several occasions to these dubious claims on my blog.3 and still, this group has stood behind their claim,4 insisting that what they have found is real based largely on the belief that because the bible says the flood and the ark are historical, it must be so.

so, instead of addressing their spurious claims yet again, i thought i would approach the issue from a different angle: forget about noahs ark; there was no world-wide flood.. the worldwide flood described in genesis 6-9 is not historical, but rather a combination of at least two flood stories, both of which descended from earlier mesopotamian flood narratives.

TTWSYF

Fair enough Designs, I have to find your previous threads , go through them to get these answers. Could you please just elaborate on your comment about bishops/cardinals altering or tampering with scriptures. Just that one question please. If that is true, i would want to know as I am a catholic and want to know. I know that there has been 3 different councils through the early church years who had voted on the cannon accepted as the word of God. The 1st voted council was at the end of the 1st century, the 2nd was at the beginning of the 3rd century and the last was at the end of the 3rd century. The point is that the accepted bible cannon has not changed much at all since the 1st to the 3rd council. No books were removed that were preciously voted in, so where, when, and who made these changes that you post about?!

dc

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The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

by theMadJW in

http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

TTWSYF

Comrade Titus, I would not get mad at MADJW comments. I really enjoy his posts and yours too, but for different reasons. I like his humor and I like your candor. I know that you're still a JW, but you are not letting that cloud your vision totally. Yes, I can see that the skies are starting to clear for you. Wouldn't it be great if Mad could see a little better too?......He is here making up stuff and I'm not taking any of it seriously. As a matter of fact, no one takes what he says seriously. We are all just being entertained by a showman. Will he see the truth? I'm not holding my breath, but I am praying.

sincerely,

dc

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For Perry: There was no global flood, so stop looking for Noah's Ark

by BurnTheShips in

forget about noahs ark; there was no worldwide flood.

many people have contacted me about the recent claims by a group called noahs ark ministries international.1 the evangelical organization claims to have discovered noahs ark.2 i have responded on several occasions to these dubious claims on my blog.3 and still, this group has stood behind their claim,4 insisting that what they have found is real based largely on the belief that because the bible says the flood and the ark are historical, it must be so.

so, instead of addressing their spurious claims yet again, i thought i would approach the issue from a different angle: forget about noahs ark; there was no world-wide flood.. the worldwide flood described in genesis 6-9 is not historical, but rather a combination of at least two flood stories, both of which descended from earlier mesopotamian flood narratives.

TTWSYF

Designs, you certainly don;t speak as one who has an education from 'friends' in seminaries. If that were true, you would have left the WTS years earlier. When did you discover your 'truth' that the bible was tampered with. What proofs do you have? Why did you continue to go door to door with a Catholic book [the bible] and call Catholics apostates? If the bible is a catholic book, then it is not possible for catholics to be apostates,is it?

dc

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The PERFECT Translation...for Churchoids!

by theMadJW in

http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.

TTWSYF

Plankton, still denying the 'truth'?

Jesus' fleshly body was disposed of by Jehovah God- disolved into its constitutive elements or atoms, or perhaps it was disolved into gas or preserved somewhere as a memorial to God's love, perhaps to be exhibited to the people of the millennial age. After he rose, he used a body with wounds in order to convince Thomas of who he was. He was recreated by Jehovah God as an invisible spirit creature. Watchtower, sept 1,1953 518; Studies in scriptures 1889, 2:129; The harp of God 1928, 172-173; You can live forever, 145; From paradise lost to paradise gained, 1958, 144; Reasoning from scriptures 1985, 217-218.

hahahahahaahahhaahahahahaha. Scripture says something totally different!

NWT Luke chapt24 37 But because they were terrified, and had become frightened, they were imagining they beheld a spirit. 38 So he said to them: “Why are YOU troubled, and why is it doubts come up in YOUR hearts? 39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; feel me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as YOU behold that I have.” 40 [[And as he said this he showed them his hands and his feet.]] 41 But while they were still not believing for sheer joy and were wondering, he said to them: “Do YOU have something there to eat?” 42 And they handed him a piece of broiled fish; 43 and he took it and ate it before their eyes.

dc