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  Did Jesus actually start a church to himself?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
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  with some 30,000 different christian denominations, how would one know which one was for real?

  some folks think jesus did start a church, others think no.

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  Mephis

  Well,.. we are all entitled to our opinions, I am honestly trying to, but I just don't follow your logic. Being written in one gospel isn't good enough? Do you think that it must be written in other gospels to be legit? What about the all other passages that were not repeated in other gospels? I mean, the bible says Jesus did lots of other stuff that never made it to the gospels, right?

  Also your point about Jesus building, or Jesus having HIS church built,or he will build as a way out of this explicit proof text is just a bunch of nonsense. Do you actually believe that? That Jesus did not intend to have HIS church.

  There WAS a church [in the making] for hundreds of years before the bible, right? I believe that Jesus DID start a church and started building it on the apostles. The passage that refers to Peter as the rock that he will build his church on is the first corner of the foundation. A building needs a foundation to start. A church starts and is built as it goes along, like a building, no?
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  Did Jesus actually start a church to himself?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with some 30,000 different christian denominations, how would one know which one was for real?

  some folks think jesus did start a church, others think no.

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  TTWSYF

  Mephis- So in your mind, Jesus din't start a church to himself because in Mathew, he says he WILL build his church is in future tense, but Mathew is written 50 years later, iS THAT RIGHT?

  Just want to be sure that I understand your position
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  Did Jesus actually start a church to himself?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with some 30,000 different christian denominations, how would one know which one was for real?

  some folks think jesus did start a church, others think no.

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  TTWSYF

  There's no evidence even from our earliest writings about him which suggests he established a church in his own lifetime.

  
  Mathew 16;18

  New International Version
  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

  
  

  How could his church survive [and flourish] for 2000 years?
  
  
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  Scriptures that will never be the YEAR TEXT

  by ttdtt in

  1. social
  2. humour

  so what scriptures do you think will never make the cut?i will start off with one to warm you all up.. 1 corinthians 4:6 - do not go beyond the things that are written,.

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  Regarding Jesus

  Philippians 2;9

  Douay-Rheims Bible

  For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above all names:
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  Did Jesus actually start a church to himself?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with some 30,000 different christian denominations, how would one know which one was for real?

  some folks think jesus did start a church, others think no.

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  TTWSYF

  There's no evidence even from our earliest writings about him which suggests he established a church in his own lifetime.

  Except in the bible, and in the writings of the church fathers which were written after HIS church was orally established
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  What is Theocratic Warfare?

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "we do not view them [silent lambs] as our enemies," [j.r.] brown said.

  (foxnews.com, march 27th, 2004)

  "a lie is a false statement made by one to another one who is entitled to hear and to know the truth" (riches book, 1936, page 177) .

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  TTWSYF

  My brother once made the mistake of telling me that they call it 'Lying for the Truth:
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  Did Jesus actually start a church to himself?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with some 30,000 different christian denominations, how would one know which one was for real?

  some folks think jesus did start a church, others think no.

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  TTWSYF

  So Jesus is a literary character who DIDN"T start a church to himself, but 2000 years later a church in his honor has stood the test of time and claims it can trace it's existence back to the apostles. Plenty of countries and cultures tried to quell, but couldn't....interesting
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  Did Jesus actually start a church to himself?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with some 30,000 different christian denominations, how would one know which one was for real?

  some folks think jesus did start a church, others think no.

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  TTWSYF

  Well, it's what the bible says. That Jesus started his own church. - will build, have built, am building...is it HIS church or not. The bible says yes, doesn't it?
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  Did Jesus actually start a church to himself?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with some 30,000 different christian denominations, how would one know which one was for real?

  some folks think jesus did start a church, others think no.

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  TTWSYF

  I always thought that Jesus started HIS church on Peter and the apostles
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  How many of you actually KNOW the bible OR God???

  by Mark Zyche in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  since jws are sooooooo terrible and full of lies.

  what the heck do you think about fat santa, and and days later the celebration of janus?.

  since you seem to be so good at looking at the "lies of the watchtower" what do you people think of your lives now, religiously speaking?

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  TTWSYF

  History contains proof enough for those people who are inclined to research