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  Do JW's ever really grow up ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. social
  2. family

  i ask the above because of my personal experience.

  as a born-in i was naive, socially inept and had never really thought deeply about anything.. i was also unable to accept arguments based upon reason and facts.. just like a child.. it was only after freeing myself from the mind-control of the jw cult that i educated myself and matured as a person to being (almost) an adult.. jw's attitudes and their inability to debate in any meaningful way, (they could start by actually listening),means they have not grown up..

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  JWs do grow up, they get old and they die...just like everyone else.
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  Catholic Approach to Scripture: How It Made Me Leave the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Hernandez in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  indoctrinated into all things watchtower, i once believed the bible was true history, that evolution was false and evil, and that the bible could be trusted to be reliable when it touched on science issues.

  then i got introduced to the official catholic bible translation of u.s. catholics, the new american bible revised edition (or nabre--not to be confused with the protestant nasv or new american standard version) and things changed.

  i was shocked to learn that the nabre teaches.... the creation and flood stories of genesis are jewish adaptations of mesopotamian heathen creation-flood mythology, not history.

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  So the WTS is ill informed about the Catholic church and it's teachings? ...

  that sounds weird
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  Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

  by Paul Mooney in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

  i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

  i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

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  What an affirmation from your Dad!

  So very sorry that you lost your friends, wife, family and all else, but to know that your Dad is so proud of you speaks volumes of your character.

  Thank you for sharing such a bittersweet story.

  The Truth Will Set You Free
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  Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

  they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

  they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

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  Book titles do not make the book (or the org), The WTS has a lot of good lip service to start, and then you see that they are very misleading, All of the WTS books are filled with misleading errors, Seems simple. They come to your door, they have a bible and want to talk about the bible and then it all gets twisted. Classic wolf in sheep's clothing

  The only thing christian about the WTS is the bible and book titles, all else is bunk.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

  they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

  they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

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  Being a Christian is not about specific beliefs about details that may or may not be correct.

  Being a Christian IS about the teachings of Jesus.

  Love one another, this includes EVERYONE including your enemies. That is what defines a Christian.

  When you love one another, you respect all humanity from the womb to the tomb. You wouldn't lie or bear false witness, you would promote real fruits for all.

  I've met plenty of JWs,many were looking for anwers and truth and were sincere in their search, but I have never met a Christian JW
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  Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

  they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

  they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

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  JWs are not true Christians" says the person celebrating Jesus' birth with pagan rites.

  That was my go to when I was a believer. Now that I'm an atheist I still feel the same about the issue.

  Not to pick on this statement, but...Christians are not hung up on Christmas, Easter, or any other holidays that folks may not agree with.

  Christians take care of everyone, not just Christians. That is what makes a Christian a Christian.

  Hospitals, food banks, orphanges, schools, homeless and battered family shelters, old age homes, etc, etc were all started by Christians.

  If your faith {or lack of} adds nothing to these fruits for the whole of humanity, then you, as a defensive mechanism may want to think

  Ya, ..that's what the false pagans do..
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  Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

  they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

  they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

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  Christians without Christ? Christ is the savior for all Christians...hence the name CHRISTians

  It's my understanding that in JW land only the 144k are Christians and everyone else is saved by the org.
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  Who has the authority to decern what the bible really teaches?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i ask because of all the books, mags and testimonies that the wts promotes.

  not only the wts, but many other christians attempt to speak about the bible with authority.

  how do we measure who is an authority if we don't know that much?.

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  TTWSYF

  Thank you, Very thoughtful answers. More thoughtful than I was writing the op topic.. lol
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  Who has the authority to decern what the bible really teaches?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i ask because of all the books, mags and testimonies that the wts promotes.

  not only the wts, but many other christians attempt to speak about the bible with authority.

  how do we measure who is an authority if we don't know that much?.

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  So I ask because of all the books, mags and testimonies that the WTS promotes. Not only the WTS, but many other Christians attempt to speak about the bible with authority. How do we measure who is an authority if we don't know that much?

  just asking
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  JWs ----( fill in the blank)

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what say you?.

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  JWs think that they'll never die, never mind that everyone who has ever lived in the past has died. Those poor, ignorant people...