Posts by TTWSYF

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pope exonerates god

by waton in

at least for you personally, .

the pope, ex cathedra?, infallibly?

* has changes the wording of the lord's prayer from "-lead us not into temptation -" to -let us not fall into temptation.

Changing scriptural interpretations is a necessity for accurate knowledge in my opinion. Reading the King James version in the 21st century does not translate accurately in today's vernacular, so an adjustment is correct.

An example could be something as simple as changing 'betrothed' to 'engaged' like in the example of Joseph and Mary. Betrothed is a word that does not have a modern use in the west these days so engaged is probably a better word.

As far as which list of biblical books to use, you have to ask 'How does one have the authority to decide which books belong and do not belong?'

I go to the source. To the people who gave the world the bible and take their authority over someone else who has no such authority to decide which books to include or not include.

For the record, I do not accept the WTS as an authentic source or authority...

Who gave the world the bible again? Why was it written? To be a guide for Christianity or for some other reason?

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I have just watched the second episode of Chenobyl

by smiddy3 in

as i said i have only seen two episodes so far and by what i have seen and what limited information i have with that and the japanese nuclear accident problem i know of i don`t want any nuclear reactors anywhere here on australian soil .. i think it has only been by pot luck that a disaster of major proportions has been avoided.. and that is not good enough .. we have had two warnings with chenobyl and japan ,what will the third one tell us ?.

i would appreciate your comments.

this should also be on social /politics .

TTWSYF

I saw the whole series and thought it was very well done. Jared Harris and Skarskard were terrific. I was living in West Germany during the mid 80s and we knew more about the accident than most in the Soviet Union.

Mistakes were certainly made. It's a mini series worth watching

imho

TTWSYF

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irrefutable proof of the great apostasy that corrupted the catholic church

by TTWSYF in

when the emperor constantine legalized christianity in the roman empire around 311ad he allowed or introduced a flood of half converted pagans and allowed the corruption that sullied the true faith and ruined christianity until a time when it could be restored to the true and pure faith that it was intended to become.

many people here know that to be a fact.

it's a common sense theory, right?.

TTWSYF

Thank you all for some thoughtful answers.

So far the consensus is that there never was a great apostasy from the universal church.

No proof what so ever, correct?

TTWSYF

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What Jesus' Return Would Mean for JWs, According to the Bible

by Afterburn in

on the last day, jesus returns, and 8,000,000 jehovah's witnesses are shocked that he didn't return invisibly.

remembering the account of stephen, they know if they can see him, they can speak directly to him, so they line up proudly to be rewarded for all they've done for his brothers.. "lord, lord," they happily cry out, "just look what all we have done in your name!".

"i know," jesus says, "i saw.

TTWSYF

Jesus said to obey everything that he commanded, not just a few things that people thought were more important than other things.

MATT 28- 16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age

Is there an organization that does ALL that Jesus commanded? I know for a fact that it isn't the WTS

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irrefutable proof of the great apostasy that corrupted the catholic church

by TTWSYF in

when the emperor constantine legalized christianity in the roman empire around 311ad he allowed or introduced a flood of half converted pagans and allowed the corruption that sullied the true faith and ruined christianity until a time when it could be restored to the true and pure faith that it was intended to become.

many people here know that to be a fact.

it's a common sense theory, right?.

TTWSYF

When the emperor Constantine legalized Christianity in the Roman empire around 311ad he allowed or introduced a flood of half converted pagans and allowed the corruption that sullied the true faith and ruined Christianity until a time when it could be restored to the true and pure faith that it was intended to become. Many people here know that to be a fact. It's a common sense theory, right?

Historically speaking, there are some 30,000 pages or so of written Christian history predating 311, so you can look back to the 1st century and see where the church was and then walk it to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th centuries all the way up to the 21st century. You can clearly see the shift in Christ;s teachings, right?

I have not found any evidence of this 'great apostasy'. I have found many examples of people who wanted it to be true and would promote the idea based solely on emotion, but no proof at all what so ever.

If the great apostasy happened, you could say 'here, on this date [or year] this person/people changed the teachings and turned away from the true Christianity. I'm looking for someone to give a clear example of this apostasy that ruined Christianity.

thoughts?

TTWSYF

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How do Jehovah's Witnesses get away with lying about the scripture?

by Capitanul in

they can edit their own versions to conform to their doctrines but what's stopping people to hand flyers or glue posters with the actual quotes in contradiction to their statements?.

examples:.

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-the-holy-spirit/ - http://archive.is/778ch .

TTWSYF

Vidiot2 days ago

Capitanul - "How do Jehovah's Witnesses get away with lying about the scripture?"

More lying?

yup

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Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is The Worst Thing About Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by minimus in

jw
friends

the longer i’m out the more i feel that disfellowshipping is cruel.

i understand the organization tells parents to not even accept emails or texts from their disfellowshipped children.

while i was a witness they tried to discourage families from association but there was some leeway if it was considered necessary business to interact.

TTWSYF

Rattigan350an hour ago

No, it is not bad at all. Because you can choose to remedy that. It is up to you to get reinstated and the shunning will stop.

How does one remedy the org's habit of lying about everything?

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Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is The Worst Thing About Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by minimus in

jw
friends

the longer i’m out the more i feel that disfellowshipping is cruel.

i understand the organization tells parents to not even accept emails or texts from their disfellowshipped children.

while i was a witness they tried to discourage families from association but there was some leeway if it was considered necessary business to interact.

TTWSYF

They justify lying and tell you it’s not really a lie if you speak untruth to someone not entitled to know.

In WTS world, no one is entitled to know the truth

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Do You Think Disfellowshipping Is The Worst Thing About Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by minimus in

jw
friends

the longer i’m out the more i feel that disfellowshipping is cruel.

i understand the organization tells parents to not even accept emails or texts from their disfellowshipped children.

while i was a witness they tried to discourage families from association but there was some leeway if it was considered necessary business to interact.

TTWSYF

With so many evil policies and practices to chose from, I have narrowed down the most evil [in my mind].

It's their lying. Every other evil from the WTS comes from their continuing policy of lying. The sooner you realize that the Governing Body lies and lies and lies some more, the better. Then you can pull yourself away from their particular brand of evil... imho

TTWSYF

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What Views or Beliefs Do Jehovah’s Witnesses No Longer Teach?

by minimus in

jw
friends

evidently they have changed their creative day from being 7000 years per day.

all blood transfusions were taboo but now blood fractions might be allowed to be taken into the body.

vaccinations were sinful at one time but not now.. can you name other views or beliefs that have changed from being considered “truth” to no longer “the truth “?.

TTWSYF

They used to believe in the worship of Jesus and even Christmas.

No more now as the light has gotten brighter....