Posts by TTWSYF

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This one bible passage proves abortions are wrong and honoring Mary is right

by TTWSYF in

nwt luke chapt 1.

41 well, as elizabeth heard the greeting of mary, the infant in her womb leaped, and elizabeth was filled with holy spirit 42 and loudly cried out: “blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruitage of your womb!

43 so how is it that this privilege is mine, to have the mother of my lord come to me?

TTWSYF

Simon Yes. Just because the bible contains some no-brainers doesn't make it inspired or negate all the crap that you conveniently gloss over. The bible allows slavery. Humans decided it was immoral. Therefore humans have better morals than 'god'.

Again, I couldn't disagree with you more. Knowing when a person is a parent is not so cut and dry in society is it? During Jesus time people would discard children who were compromised [physically, mentally or emotionally] and it was the first Christians who would pick them up from the side of the road and cared for them just because they were human beings. Those were the teachings of Jesus. Sure, HIS church is filled with great people and people who suck, so yes, there were predators just like there are everywhere, but the teachings are rock solid. Most of my problems are from other people, lol.

Ever see 300? In the beginning the King looked at his son to make sure he was perfect or he would chuck him over the cliff onto the pile of baby bones.

Same thing happens today with people getting tests done to see of their child has downs or some other syndrome. People today [YES] even abort children even based on sex, so I think history does not agree with your assessment of our civilized society.

The good things like foodbanks, homeless shelters, hospitals, universities, orphanages etc did not exist before Jesus's church gave them to the world. There is such a thing as a better choice because there is such a thing as truth.

Rocketman- I would [of course] be devastated if one of my daughters got raped. And I would not fault someone for choosing to abort such a pregnancy, however, what do you think would be the more noble or the better way? To abort your grandchild. Have no love what so ever for the part of the child that is your progeny? I have no idea what my daughters would do. I know what I'd want them to do. And that would be to make the better choice.

Like it or not, God created us to thrive when we face resistance. It could be building muscle by weight resistance, building brain power through reading and studying, even following through on commitments builds a stronger character. The same is true for sufferings. That builds spirituality perhaps and has a value. That's why we shouldn't want to support state sponsored killing and suicide, but it's all part of our evolved society?

I think so.

TTWSYF

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This one bible passage proves abortions are wrong and honoring Mary is right

by TTWSYF in

nwt luke chapt 1.

41 well, as elizabeth heard the greeting of mary, the infant in her womb leaped, and elizabeth was filled with holy spirit 42 and loudly cried out: “blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruitage of your womb!

43 so how is it that this privilege is mine, to have the mother of my lord come to me?

TTWSYF

Hey Simon. I guess a better topic headline would've been 'you're a mother at conception' instead of 'abortions are wrong'

That said, how much of a stretch is it? I mean there is always a better way and that is the way that we all should take. Everyone knows [of] some mother who stopped smoking, drinking, starting eating better or changed their life dramatically just because they got pregnant. These are examples of women making the better choice for their children and themselves. They are mothers at that moment. Your mother was your mother before you were born.

Then there's the 'I have a clump of cells' teaching that our higher evolved society promotes. A women's clump of cells is actually a person, just like a dog's clump of cells are actually dogs.

The bible is a poor standard of morality? Well that answer is in the where or who were you taught from or by? The bible has lots of examples of morality. Both good and bad. Good teachers are essential.

When Jesus's apostles started spreading [all] the teachings of Jesus ,the Roman and Greek speaking world had aqueducts, art, architecture, plumbing and a highly evolved humanity. Yet elite Roman and Greek citizens would have a slave boy or girl for sex. Guess what? that was considered the 'good life' .

Jesus's teachings were for all people to love one another as themselves. They invented human rights.

I couldn't disagree with you more on our evolved humanity.

The Truth Will Set You Free

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This one bible passage proves abortions are wrong and honoring Mary is right

by TTWSYF in

nwt luke chapt 1.

41 well, as elizabeth heard the greeting of mary, the infant in her womb leaped, and elizabeth was filled with holy spirit 42 and loudly cried out: “blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruitage of your womb!

43 so how is it that this privilege is mine, to have the mother of my lord come to me?

TTWSYF

Sigfrid- being called a racist doesn't hold the weight that it used too.

Soon, it may be a even be considered a compliment..lol

Diogen- You would be hard pressed to find biblical passages that Catholics don't like. The new testament is a Catholic book. The example of Jesus calling his mother 'woman' is not derogatory as the WTS would have you believe. Jesus was never disrespectful of or to his mother. The passage of calling Mary 'woman' is a reference of the OT title of the Woman who will crush the head of the serpent. Enmity between the two. Gen 3:15

That said, not looking to piss anyone off, just listing something that seemed interesting.

Jeff- Interesting passages for an adulterous wife. Clearly she bears more guilt than the adulterous husband. I do not consider those passages as an indicator that abortion is ok. It is like when Jesus said not to divorce and was rebutted with 'Moses said we could.' Jesus replied that it was because of 'your hardness of heart'.

No matter the way that a mother conceives [adultery, rape, incest or traditional marital relations], the person in the womb is 100% innocent and worthy of living a life for no other reason than being created in the image and likeness of God.

TTWSYF

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This one bible passage proves abortions are wrong and honoring Mary is right

by TTWSYF in

nwt luke chapt 1.

41 well, as elizabeth heard the greeting of mary, the infant in her womb leaped, and elizabeth was filled with holy spirit 42 and loudly cried out: “blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruitage of your womb!

43 so how is it that this privilege is mine, to have the mother of my lord come to me?

TTWSYF

JP_ Lots of people care what the bible says. Lots of people here have a history of 'living their life according to the bible'. I really don't know why. The bible is a Catholic book that they compiled for use in their liturgy. It was never a guide to Christianity, that came from the teachings of Christ's church. Jesus never said 'live your life according to the scriptures' or 'write down these things for everyone to follow'.

That said, the scriptural passage that I quoted from the NWT does prove that the writer wants you to know that women are mothers at conception and honoring Mary is not wrong. These are BIble verses, not mine.

TTWSYF

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This one bible passage proves abortions are wrong and honoring Mary is right

by TTWSYF in

nwt luke chapt 1.

41 well, as elizabeth heard the greeting of mary, the infant in her womb leaped, and elizabeth was filled with holy spirit 42 and loudly cried out: “blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruitage of your womb!

43 so how is it that this privilege is mine, to have the mother of my lord come to me?

TTWSYF

...What are you trying to prove again?

This one bible passage proves abortions are wrong and honoring Mary is right

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This one bible passage proves abortions are wrong and honoring Mary is right

by TTWSYF in

nwt luke chapt 1.

41 well, as elizabeth heard the greeting of mary, the infant in her womb leaped, and elizabeth was filled with holy spirit 42 and loudly cried out: “blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruitage of your womb!

43 so how is it that this privilege is mine, to have the mother of my lord come to me?

TTWSYF

NWT LUKE CHAPT 1

41 Well, as Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the infant in her womb leaped, and Elizabeth was filled with holy spirit 42 and loudly cried out: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruitage of your womb! 43 So how is it that this privilege is mine, to have the mother of my Lord come to me?

1] When Mary visited Elizabeth, neither had given birth, yet Mary was already the mother of Jesus and Elizabeth was mother of John the baptist. So according to the bible, you are a mother when you are pregnant, prior to giving birth.

2] While visiting, Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and was with John the baptist, Jesus and Mary but gives honor to Mary specifically by asking how this privilege came to her that Mary would visit her.

Interesting, no?

TTWSYF

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Prove That Jehovah’s Witnesses Do Not Have The “Truth”

by minimus in

jw
friends

someone is researching jehovah’s witnesses.

they happen to come on to this site.

do the witnesses have the truth??.

TTWSYF

The Watchtower Corporation/JWorg. was and still is a theological fraud but a commercial success story as an active religious publishing house.

Well said Rocketman

'If you tell a lie enough times, people accept it as truth'

Joseph Goebbels -Nazi propaganda minister to Adolf Hitler

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Prove That Jehovah’s Witnesses Do Not Have The “Truth”

by minimus in

jw
friends

someone is researching jehovah’s witnesses.

they happen to come on to this site.

do the witnesses have the truth??.

TTWSYF

They have the 'Truth' because they live by their interpretation of the bible?

Well, the bible is a Catholic book that they put together for their liturgical services. It is not a guide to Christianity, it only provides examples and some rules of Christianity.

Out of 30k-40k different sects of Christianity, only one was started by Jesus and can be traced back to the apostles. His church gave the world hospitals, universities, homeless shelters, foodbanks, and invented human rights for all based solely on all people being in the image and likeness of God.

JWs? They go door to door restoring God's name is the best fruits that they have?

Historical reality proves that the WTS does not have the 'Truth'

TTWSYF

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What useful piece of literature have the JW produced?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

seeing on another post here about former jws throwing away literature.

i am curious as to the various opinions on there value.. for me i have been inactive for 3 years almost 4. i still have alot of books and of course all their bibles ever produced (except a few from the 1800s.).

in my opinion i think there are four books the jws produced that are useful:.

TTWSYF

"Should you believe in the trinity?" was a publication that the wts was quite proud of as I recall.

I wonder what ever became of that booklet?

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Challenging the teacher.

by Jofi_Wofo in

imagine the case where a student disagrees with his teacher's method, and believes that he knows a better way.

the teacher realizes that if he kicks the student out of the classroom, the other students may begin to wonder if the teacher was hiding something.

to settle the matter once and for all, the teacher gives the student a chance to prove himself.. wisely, the teacher takes a moment to lay down the parameters for the challenge.

TTWSYF

The question is 'Is the teacher accredited? Is the teacher qualified?

From the WTS? Sorry, not accredited or qualified.

In other words, they have no authority to teach anything bible related,

Any authority that they claim is self claim only,

Question those 'teachers'