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  Bocelli tells a little story

  by BurnTheShips in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qfkcgtfn3o.

  and with that, we segue into "con te partiro".

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcrfvp11hbo.

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  RosePetal

  Thank you for sharing this lovely story i hadn't heard it before it was very moving. I love to listen to Andrea Bocelli I have his ''Andrea'' ablum and others they always bring me to tears.

  RosePetal
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  Any talks of Ray Franz available?

  by Nostromo in

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  it would be very nice to hear some of his talks from the 70s to see how they were different from other gb member talks.

  i bet he used bible more than the others.

  any ideas where to find some?

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  Titus are you sure you mean Ray Franz and not his uncle Fred Franz. I thought it was Fred Franz that gave that talk.

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  Randall Watters: My Return to Christianity: The Early Years (part 3)

  by Dogpatch in

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  okay gang, warning!.

  this is going to sound real new-christian preachy to some of you, but hey, this was 1982ish, so don't come down too hard on me.

  i just tend to put all i got into my work, but i've mellowed out (called "getting older").. i am not a fan of churches or institutions personally; more of a loner.

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  Hi Randy! my my post name is Mr.Bumble I am RosePetals husband, I do come on this forum from time to time to make comments or observations, I have not given by story yet, mainly because of limited time. i have read your story on freeminds last year during our exit and was incouraged that we had made the right decision to resign and walk away.Prior to this, things were troubling both of us for many years and though we knew problems and issues were not just local, the world wide scale of it shook us both and effected our faith and we were in no mans land for a few years but we still believed it was true, the mind set was 'Theres no where else to go'!We both felt the same way and could not go back until things changed.Idid not want to serve God on condition, 'Waiting on Jah' was not a bad attitude to have,but was misused and abused by the watchtower org and good people were suffering.

  Since walking away our faith has taken on a whole new meaning and renewed perpose. [more about that another time.]Randy! i enjoyed the second half of your story regarding techniques to allow people in a cult to start thinking for themselves again rather than forcing their mind to close again to slumber or to feel empty.We still have family sound asleep and of course shunning is the name of the game for them. We are fellowshipping with christians in our area and are in the middle of directing them to subtle techiques to ask questions not on doctrine but on our God given freedom of conscience and choices in life, giving them more info on the org. when the witnesses call or during their own minitry. I am sending you a pm regarding this. many thanks.

  Mr Bumble.
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  Why can't the elders MIND THEIR BUSINESS!

  by babygirl30 in

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  so yesterday i end up having a nice evening with old friends who used to be in my congregation years ago.

  i always loved this family, and thought we were pretty close.

  what was meant to be a 'drop by - say hi' ended up being a 3hr visit!!

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  Hi babygirl My brother in law lost his position as Elder in the congo because he was still associating with his daughter. My sister was still seeing her daughter and her relationship didn't change at all, having meals spending days together going shopping. Her daughter is married to a non JW and has children. My sister insisted on still seeing her and her grandchildren. The elders went to see them and advised that they stop associating as it was stumbling the congo but my sister stood her ground and pointed out that it was her conscience. As my sister has poor health she felt that she needed her daughter and I agreed with her.

  We also carried on associating with her and socialising my niece said that the brothers and sisters she had known for years and grew up with were treating her like she was a dirty person even though her life was normal married with children. A good wife and mother. They would ignore her.

  But the irony is that when my hubby and I resigned they disowned us and refuse to see us or speak to us, eben my niece who we still gave unconditional love kindness to is shunning us. It was the situation with my sister and niece that helped bring things that were already not sitting right with us and feeling something wrong with the org. to a head.

  I hope this helps your friend and makes her think and wake up to the cult hold they have over people and be brave enough to make a stand unfortunately although my niece does not believe it and celebrates christmas etc. she is still shunning me my hubby and my daughter [her cousin] it is fear that holds her to it.

  Love RosePetal
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  My Memories of Bethel in the Franz Era - part one

  by Dogpatch in

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  food was passed from one side and if you were #10 you may not get too much to eat!

  when i finally did, she was not at all interested.

  but i was lucky it didnt work out, for she never would have left the watchtower.

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  Hi Randy hubby and I have already read your story but we are really enjoying reading it again and look forward to the next installment.

  Thanks RosePetal
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  How would you answer this question?

  by Titus in

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  So they want to be careful what they wish for
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  How would you answer this question?

  by Titus in

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  Yes the end is near for the watchtower
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  I Have the Pwer to Run them Away

  by nomoreguilt in

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  now, having been on the other side of the fence, so to speak, and having had hoa's run me out of their subdivision, the shoe is on the other foot.

  as i said in my come back post yesterday, i have become very active in my local community.

  i am the president of our home owner's association.

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  Hi Nomoreguilt sounds very nazish to me. My father served his country and went to war [before becoming a JW] to fight for freedom. For freedom of worship, freedom for creating and advertising business. If someone comes to your door to promote business or the gospel we can choose to answer the door and say yes or no, we can throw leaflets and flyers away and refuse their business. We can choose.

  I have just started a business and I promote it with leaflets and flyers. People have the choice to use my business or not. I would not like to have to start paying town halls and councils to have the privilege.

  RosePetal
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  I'm afraid you folks who are starting new ex-FB groups...

  by AwSnap in

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  are forcing the jw's to quit using facebook.

  i absolutely understand why you are doing it....but personally, groups that blatently criticize the jw's have caused the ones closest to me to quit using fb.

  that was one of my last outlets to associate with them, and then they quit fb altogether.

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  RosePetal

  My family have not taken any notice of the society they are still on fb and I am sure there are many like them. Some who are taking notice following borg instructions will probably take notice for a while then go back on. It will get harder for the borg to control people with the internet in this modern age, especially the young ones.

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  thankyou all who have shown support to me and goodbye for now x

  by looloo in

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  i first came on this site around the time we were waiting the my daughters abuser to face justice in crown court , we got no justice (due to lack of evidence) but his other victims had a very small section of the abuse they suffered legally recognised , due to a deal being done with the defence , so we waited 20 months to give evidence just to be dropped at the last minute for a "deal" my by now ex best friend decided to stand by the child rapist !as did some of his family despite him being a disfellowshipped person (he was not disfellowshipped for child abuse ) and they are all jws !

  isold my house and left the town i once loved as i couldnt bare to be in the same town as him when he left prison (he did 18 months of a 3 year sentence ) and see his supportive family knocking on doors taliking of truth made me feel like screaming at them "what about my poor girl , wheres your support for her , you hypocrites "my daughter is still very much affected by what happened to her age 13 , sexual, physical and mental abuse over months and months .

  but i also have a 6 year old girl who was only 20 months old when i found out and reported the abuse to the police , and the long process started , for the next 20 moths i could think of nothing but giving evidence in court and trying to support my girl who was also terrified of that , my little one was 3 and a half when he was sentenced and i looked back and realised i had hardley taken any notice of her since i found out about my other girls abuse , i had missed out on so much of her best times , learning new words etc , i was too preoccupied .

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  Hugs and kisses looloo I am so glad you are moving on and are so much stronger. Your letting him see he has no hold on you any more he is no longer going to spoil you and your family's life. Letting go and moving on is the best thing you can do. I am so happy for you hope you have a lovely summer. Our best wishes our thoughts and prayers are with you.

  Love RosePetal and hubby xxxxxxx