most of us here know what a hypocritical, backstabbing bunch of gossips many of the jw's tend to be.
far too often, a jw wont tell you to your face what's eating them, but they'll sure tell others.
when i started waking up (the second time around) this made me very paranoid.
And to add a comment to vampire so many of us have been hurt and dammaged through rumour gossip and lies. It is no jokeing matter or juicy bit of fun to talk about. Even now I find it difficult to talk about some of the things that have happened to me and my family through gossip and spite.
RosePetal
most of us here know what a hypocritical, backstabbing bunch of gossips many of the jw's tend to be.
far too often, a jw wont tell you to your face what's eating them, but they'll sure tell others.
when i started waking up (the second time around) this made me very paranoid.
To Q. HaHaHa Witnesses aren't in your opinion any more gossipy than most people???????????? After 54yrs born in and moving around different congregations over the years in my [experience] [ NOT OPINION] the gossip was ripe. I have seen upteen peoples lives ruined including my own over spiteful gossip and lies.
The Borg. is a breeding a ground for it. Because of the stifling structure of the organsation people judge each other far more harshly than people in the ''world''. There is more rivalry and competition.
RosePetal
nothing in life is free... not even freedom.
it's the weekend for my kids to come down and it seems dear old dad just aint that important anymore.... son who now has his licence has left school to work (i found out on facebook) and seems to be too busy, daughter has a party (with j dubs) she wants to go to saturday night.
of course the mother is delighted by this...as they are a two hour drive away it just stuffs up the whole weekend really.
Hi Oz Sorry to hear your feeling down, Your kids are growing up and doing their own thing lets hope they keep doing their own thing. Just don't stop being there for them, keep up that contact no matter what, showing that you care and love them unconditionaly, That means more to kids than anything, Thats what my daughter tells me.
I so agree with cognizant dissidant she's on the ball. RosePetal
i did not know where to start, but figured the personal experience section was a good place to begin.
won't bore you with all the particulars today....but i was raised in "it" (wont call it the truth, cause it ain't) from about 1968. baptized in 1985, faded about 2001.....woke up from the insanity after reading ray franz forbidden book a few years ago(crisis).
only sorry i did not read it earlier....but there was that fear factor instilled in me.
Welcome skitt and we don't ever think anyones stories are boring we love that you all come and share your expierences and what you went through in the Borg. because we all relate and don't feel alone, we all need support thats why we come here. I can't wait to here more. Its great that you have your wife with you and she comes on the board too. So many on here are alone and hoping their partner wakes up.
I can so relate to feeling depressed at the meetings and feeling that nothing you do is ever enough I remember an elder said to me once every time thursday and sunday come round I feel depressed and unwell.
RosePetal
i am a twenty-eight year old ex-witness.
at the age of fifteen i had developed an alcohol and drug problem mainly due to my dysfunctional upbringing.
my parents were divorced at a young age causing my mother to run to the witnesses for emotional support and fellowship during a trying time.
Hi Merkaba what a wonderful testimony and so beautifully written. I am so sorry you went through such a terrible time as a young person but what a wonderful outcome. After your experience you will be able to help so many and give them support. As Yknot said never give up on your mum and keep praying for her as I do for my family that she will wake up. You have certainly brightened my day.
Welcome to the board I will be praying for your mum Merkaba RosePetal
it is incredible the amount of scaremongering that jw's carry out.. this was one that always plagued me when i was still trying to grasp onto my beliefs as a jw.. either in wt study or in private discussion, this topic would come up.. what a horendous outlook of the future.
to be in absolute fear that the authorities might take your children away from you.
that you might suffer torture.
I remember that in the early 70's sisters were telling my mum to put food away for the tribulation so she started collecting packet food and tins. They all had a cupboard full of food. I remember growing up being in constant fear of persecution, armageddon, demons, threatended with the elders as my mum asked them round to tell us off. Thundering and lightning because when I was little I always thought it was the start of armageddon.
To this day I still have a fear of the dark, I know many people do but mine definately stems from all the constant talk of demons, armageddon and persecution and threatening talk.
There was a family in our congregation that would very rarely attend but if there were thunderstorms we knew they would all be at the next meeting because they thought it might be the start of armageddon.
Growing up I was always having terrifying nightmares and I am not exaggerating.
Rosepetal
titus, you today made a statement regarding an essential wt doctrine: .
i am an active jw.. can i tell you what that doctrine is?.
bullshit!.
Titus something that has finally hit home to me is the scripture Psalms 146 v 3 'Do not put your trust in princes, in mortal man, who cannot save ' NIV
Only trust in the Lord Jesus said John 14 v 6 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me.' NIV
Do not be afraid of men Duet 18 v 22 'If a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message of the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
RosePetal
titus, you today made a statement regarding an essential wt doctrine: .
i am an active jw.. can i tell you what that doctrine is?.
bullshit!.
What you should do is keep investigating keep searching do your homework. Pray to your heavenly father for his holy spirit to guide you. Thats what my hubby and I did. Stay here Titus because I am praying for you with all my heart. Just as I am praying for my family.
Matt. 7 v 7 ' KEEP ON KNOCKING' It will be opened to you.
Titus God has already started to open the door for you, you just have to step in my brother.
RosePetal
titus, you today made a statement regarding an essential wt doctrine: .
i am an active jw.. can i tell you what that doctrine is?.
bullshit!.
The point is Titus you can't say what you think about 3% or any other %. maybe undercover on here you can, but openly to fellow JWs in your kingdom hall you would be taken to the back room before I could say Jack Robinson. Try telling them what you think and tell them its B$s see what happens.
RosePetal
i just got the "come be my follower" book and am shocked at their illustration on page 186. maybe i'm more shocked that at one time i would have accepted this warped reasoning.. first they quote jesus at matt.
7:21-23: "'lord, lord, did we not...perform many powerful works in your name?
' and yet then i will confess to them: i never knew you!
Christians preach the [TRUE] gospel of Christ to the needy and the poor as well as food and aid, not one without the other. At last that is what I am having a share in. I feel I have a lot of making up to do.
PROV 19 v 17 'HE WHO IS KIND TO THE POOR LENDS TO THE LORD. HE WILL REWARD HIM FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE. NIV
PROV 21 v 13 'IF A MAN SHUTS HIS EARS TO THE CRY OF THE POOR, HE TOO WILL CRY OUT AND NOT BE ANSWERED. NIV
RosePetal
