If it were my daughter, he would'nt get a chance to have a trial.
avishai
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Former elder Louis Angiuano found NOT guilty
by Nathan Natas inhttp://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/news/stories/20030517/localnews/318666.html
trial jury clears elder.
acquittal brings molestation case to speedy end.
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Evil slaving at District Conventions.
by avishai inanyone plan on clowning these fools at their conventions?
i don't necessarily mean shouting, holding placards, etc.
but i do mean putting evidence of their covering up child molesting around.
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avishai
Anyone plan on clowning these fools at their conventions? I don't necessarily mean shouting, holding placards, etc. But I do mean putting evidence of their covering up child molesting around.
Who was it that drove around w/ a big sign on his car about silent lambs?
Yes, I want to piss them off, but also I want to teach them, expose them, etc. Any ideas?
I want to wear dress shirts w/ silent lambs stuff Ironed on the back, under my jacket. I want them to try to throw me out of a public place. I want to see if they'll try to violate my constitutional freedom of speech.
Does anyone know how much legal right they have to throw you off the convention grounds?
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A Schubert Impromptu
by Farkel infranz schubert was an austrian composer who at one time studied with the infamous antonio scalieri.
those of you who watched the movie "amadeus" will remember scalieri.
schubert was born in 1797 and died in 1828 at the tender age of 31. even so, his music shows an incredible amount of maturity.
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avishai
Great stuff, farkel, now I gotta go back & lissen to the rest o' yer stuff.
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Why do elders step down when their children are disfellowshipped?
by truthseeker inhi everyone, a question that has been on my mind for a while.. if jehovah appoints the elders, why is it that when one of their kids is disfellowshipped some of them step down as an elder?.
does jehovah dis-appoint them?
is this a scriptual thing?
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avishai
I always thought this rule was so stupid, & shame/status based rather than anything else.
I mean, by the same logic, Jehovah should be asked to step down as "GOD", but the jws don't ask him to.
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SHUNNED FATHER GOES TO COURT - AGAIN
by SHUNNED FATHER inthe watchtower has been trying to get my wife appointed as the representative of bethany's estate so they would be in a possition to sue the doctors, hospital, child welfare and provincial government.
i decided to get involved to prevent this.
after many months of legal battling , the wts thru in the towel and gave up on the idea.
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avishai
Give the bastards hell, lawrence!!!
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Know any female jw child molesters?
by avishai ini was reading an article in "jane" magazine today that talks about women child molesters.
it said up to 40% of molestations may be done by women, it's just that its far more underreported than males.
so, anyone know of any jw women molesters?
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avishai
Woman faces multiple life terms in molestation case
By TERRY VAU DELL - Staff Writer
Wed May 14 03:00:17 2003 -- OROVILLE - A judge Tuesday held an Oroville woman to answer to 15 counts of sexual and physical abuse of children, which could result in multiple life terms in prison if she is ultimately convicted of the crimes.On the witness stand, a Butte County sheriff's investigator quoted a 9-year-old neighbor girl as saying that Tina Pacheco, 33, forcibly molested her in the Oroville woman's bedroom last month and also made her "have sex" with another young girl that same day.
She prosecution alleges the mother of five also burned the first victim with a cigarette and several times furnished methamphetamine to her own 15-year-old daughter.
But Pacheco's attorney, Eric Ortner, said outside of court he believes the sex charges will be entirely disproved if and when the case goes to trial.
Prior to disclosing the alleged molestations by Pacheco, the 9-year-old had made similar allegations against a man in her own home, who is currently awaiting trial on separate charges, according to sheriff's reports.
During a preliminary hearing in Butte County Superior Court for Pacheco Tuesday, her lawyer closely grilled sheriff's detective Robert Ponce on what specific information the victim provided to corroborate her story.
The detective conceded that because of her age, the girl was not asked to describe the bedroom, nor its contents, nor underwent a medical examination.
Ponce also testified that when asked if the defendant had made the two girls have sex in her bedroom, the victim's 9-year-old playmate had replied, "I don't know" or "I'm not sure."
But the detective added, it was his opinion that the second girl was only being "evasive," and at no time did she ever deny the sex acts occurred.
Privately, Ponce said that after grilling the first victim repeatedly, her story never changed and the officer said he is "convinced" she is telling the truth.
After listening to the officer's testimony, Judge Thomas Kelly ruled there was "sufficient" evidence to hold Pacheco for trial on nine felony counts of forcible child molestation, two counts of forcible oral copulation with a minor, one count of child abuse, pertaining to the alleged cigarette burns, and three counts of furnishing methamphetamine to a minor.
Because of a "multiple victims enhancement," if convicted on all counts, the defendant could face more than 11 consecutive life terms in prison upon conviction, according to deputy district attorney Leo Barone.
The stocky, dark-haired defendant, who wore a yellow jail sweatshirt and blue pants in court, remained silent during Tuesday's preliminary hearing.
Several spectators waiting in the courtroom for their own cases to be called, audibly gasped during the sometimes graphic testimony.
The sheriff's detective said county Children's Services were notified on April 9 after the 9-year-old victim disclosed the allegations during a counseling session.
Ponce testified the youngster claimed she was watching TV with a 9-year-old playmate at Pacheco's D Street home in Oroville about a week earlier when the defendant pulled her into her bedroom, undressed her and forced her onto a bed, where she was made to kiss Pacheco and "have sex with her."
The youngster told authorities she told the defendant to stop, and twice tried to get up, but that the Oroville woman "pushed her down."
At one point, the girl claims the Oroville woman brought the other 9-year-old into the bedroom and "made them have sex together."
The prosecutor Tuesday introduced photos of marks on the first victim's arm and leg, which the detective agreed were "consistent" with cigarette burns.
The detective quoted the defendant's 15-year-old daughter as saying that her mother had smoked methamphetamine with her at least three times.
Under questioning by Pacheco's attorney, the sheriff's investigator acknowledged the victim was unable to pinpoint when the alleged molestations occurred, other than it was the last time she had been at the defendant's house and "it was getting dark."
Outside of court, Ponce, who is the sheriff's primary sexual abuse investigator, said children that age often don't remember specific details.
He said he didn't order a medical exam for the Oroville youngster because of its "invasive" nature and because the alleged crime had occurred at least a week earlier.
Ortner, Pacheco's attorney, predicted the lack of physical or medical evidence, "will make it more difficult to prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt" to a jury.
"I believe that by the time we finish our own investigation, she'll be exonerated of the sex acts," the defense attorney said of the Oroville woman.
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Donations.
by avishai insimon & angharad work very hard to keep this site up, & all of us get so much out of it, that i suggest we dig deep.
simon does'nt have to do it for free, you can donate, & w/ as much as we save from not putting $$$ in the friggerty contribution box, i suggest we all put in at least a dollar a month.
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avishai
We'll gladly make another donation, but this time we want to see Simon post a pic of himself in a kilt.
I'll see yer kilt, & if there's enough donations on this thread, I'll post a pic of me in a dress for my avatar for a whole week. Any takers?
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Donations.
by avishai insimon & angharad work very hard to keep this site up, & all of us get so much out of it, that i suggest we dig deep.
simon does'nt have to do it for free, you can donate, & w/ as much as we save from not putting $$$ in the friggerty contribution box, i suggest we all put in at least a dollar a month.
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avishai
im all for offering some financial support for this forum which has become so important to so many of us. how do we go about doing that?
You click on that little donate button on the top left of your screen. If you don't already have a paypal acct., it will tell you how to set one up. after that, it's as easy as puuting in the amount you want to donate & clicking, & bada-boom bada-bing, you've just donated.
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Donations.
by avishai insimon & angharad work very hard to keep this site up, & all of us get so much out of it, that i suggest we dig deep.
simon does'nt have to do it for free, you can donate, & w/ as much as we save from not putting $$$ in the friggerty contribution box, i suggest we all put in at least a dollar a month.
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avishai
There. I did it. I feel better.
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Donations.
by avishai insimon & angharad work very hard to keep this site up, & all of us get so much out of it, that i suggest we dig deep.
simon does'nt have to do it for free, you can donate, & w/ as much as we save from not putting $$$ in the friggerty contribution box, i suggest we all put in at least a dollar a month.
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avishai
Sheesh, jws are known for being cheap!! I hope xjws don't get that same reputation!
Me too!!! But, seriously, if everyone on this site put in a buck, there's what, 7-8,000 members on this board? I realise not as many are active, but a dollar or pound from all who are active is sure better than a shrp stick in the eye! So dig deep, hit that donate board right now. Joy2befree, I'm putting my $1.60 in right now! Anyone wanna match me? or Exceed? Let's call this the Xjw telethon thread. Or internetathon, or whatever.