@peacedog: Not derision Sir, just rebuke. Try being civil to people and stop your churlish approach, and we can enjoy good reading and draw our own conclusions. All the best.
Podobear
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TRINITY Challenge for JW's, Unitarians and Anyone Else
by UnDisfellowshipped intrinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
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TRINITY Challenge for JW's, Unitarians and Anyone Else
by UnDisfellowshipped intrinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
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@Think About It. Thank you. I err on the side of consistency in the Scriptures too. I agree that the name of Jesus Father and God is Jehovah.
@djegnogg: Thank you too. John 20:28 was always the most difficult text for me to explain until I entered into a protracted discussion on the Green, I had believed for years that the expression was made in the Vocative. I apologised for my misunderstanding, and all became clear to me. That was the last brick in the Trinitarian wall demolished for me. I could then see fully how absurd the doctrine is. I was finally free of its grip. Thanks again.
@peacedog: I read your post at an even pace thank you. I take it that simple questions trouble you, so that sarcasm and mockery are your only protection? You have a serious mental aberration if this is the case... my sympathies. Please refrain from being condescending when folks want information to reason on. Would you like me to comment on your post to me? I will reply with frankness and honesty and without derisory comment.
Podo
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TRINITY Challenge for JW's, Unitarians and Anyone Else
by UnDisfellowshipped intrinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
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@djeggnog: Perhaps you can explain to peacedog that the exclamation by Thomas is written in the NOMINATIVE case and no the Vocative. Thomas was not declaring that the risen Jesus was Almighty God at all. Yet again peacedog, please clarify the words of the dead, but not yet ascended Jesus to Mary in John 20:17.. "I am returning my Father and Your Father, to my God and Your God."
Here we have the witnesses of three texts showing Jesus Incarnate as speaking to his Lord, his God, his Father... the dead, resurrected but not ascended Jesus.. speaking of his God and Father.. and finally the exalted, Immortal Jesus referring to his God and Father.
Your full explanation of John 20:28; (Psalm 110:1) partly answered; Revelation 3:7-12,please. I look forward to your explanation and would ask djeggnog if he could explain why the Nominative and not the Vocative is used in recording Thomas' exclamation. It really is quite important to get the real sense of the original language here. No demeaning language please peacedog.. it is so unnecessary. Thank you.
Podo
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TRINITY Challenge for JW's, Unitarians and Anyone Else
by UnDisfellowshipped intrinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
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@peacedog: Why are you unable to spell out what you mean... how do you know that my own view on the Deity of Christ is different from your own. Clearly, you agreed that Jehovah and Jesus Incarnate are the Lords referred to in Psalm 110:1. Thank you again, now I asked you to clarify who the Father and God of Jesus in Revelation 2:7-12 is... now that he is not Jesus incarnate but the Immortal, Resurrected and Glorified Jesus.
Why is that such a difficult question to answer. To me it is obvious. Jesus (exalted) still has a God and Father... Jehovah. Disprove it, if you don't want to explain it. Why the fuss over the obvious?
Best wishes, Podo
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Counting the errors in one section of the Origin of Life brouchure
by bohm infrom page 12:.
the theory of evolution tries to account for the origin of life on earth without the necessity of divine intervention.. .
false: simply plain false on both accounts.. however, the more that scientists discover about life, the less likely it appears that it could arise by chance.. false: author state conclusion which is not supported by the text.
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Hey: thanks Peeps.. actually it was my reading of Wikepedia that prompted me to ask the question. For me, a theory is precisely that.. a working hypothesis is the next stage to an established Fact. Ipso Facto, Gravity is a Fact, the theory behind which is proven (or, is it boffins?). Similarly I view Evolution as a state of development rather than an acceptable explanation for the Origin of the Species.. that remains Theory, I don't see a working hypothesis and don't read many articles spouting the Fact of Evolution.
Cheers anyways, bohm, Superspunk and Sir82 from
Podo (a.k.a www.confused.com - on this one at least!)
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Counting the errors in one section of the Origin of Life brouchure
by bohm infrom page 12:.
the theory of evolution tries to account for the origin of life on earth without the necessity of divine intervention.. .
false: simply plain false on both accounts.. however, the more that scientists discover about life, the less likely it appears that it could arise by chance.. false: author state conclusion which is not supported by the text.
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I am only a medic bohm.. I can't make vital decision based on Theory. Thanks anyway. Gravity is a fact I can work with.. as part of an orderly Universe made by a Designer (God or Creator if you will).. I can work with that too. I guess the discussion will go on and on here.
Podo
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Counting the errors in one section of the Origin of Life brouchure
by bohm infrom page 12:.
the theory of evolution tries to account for the origin of life on earth without the necessity of divine intervention.. .
false: simply plain false on both accounts.. however, the more that scientists discover about life, the less likely it appears that it could arise by chance.. false: author state conclusion which is not supported by the text.
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For me the word Evolution refers more to the Adaptation of the Species rather than its Origin. The Origin came from direct creation, the Evolution came by Adapting to the Environment.
I agree with the comments made about weighting the arguments of others to suit their Creationist stance.. but, maybe the WT has a point..
The THEORY of Evolution has never been upgraded from that status since its inception. It has not even been listed as a WORKING HYPOTHESIS.
Can anyone explain why?
Podo
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TRINITY Challenge for JW's, Unitarians and Anyone Else
by UnDisfellowshipped intrinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
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@ peacedog: just a comment on the Scripture will be suffice... thank you.. no animosity here just scriptural and historic fact. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. The facts of history are their own testimony.
Thank you for agreeing that Jesus is not the Jehovah of the Old Testament... now please elucidate on Revelation 3:7-12. You seem to snipe at the feet of others, for a change, let us see the logic of your reasoning throughout Scripture .... Who is the God and Father of Jesus (the exalted, resurrected and Immortal Jesus) in Revelation 3:7-12 please.
How many requests do I have to make? Your humble servant.... Sir,
Podo
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TRINITY Challenge for JW's, Unitarians and Anyone Else
by UnDisfellowshipped intrinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
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@ Peacedog: I have already thanked you for clarifying your thought on Psalm 110 and congratulate you that agree that Jesus is NOT the YHWH of the Old Testament. Your thoughts on Revelation 3:7-12 ... I seem to have missed them. Perhaps you could rise above the sarcasm and elucidate. Thanks.
@djeggnog: Your last posting was an excellent and concise summary. Thank you. You will find that "Born Again" lurkers and Trinitarian sympathisers like Chalam, will spin around the same dozen or so passages of Scripture which have been transliterated to read in English with bias towards their Satanic/Pagan doctrine. The Bible everywhere else is very clear, even as Titus (the Poster) has pointed out in his native Croatian... that Jesus is the SERVANT of Jehovah.
Equally you will find these very same Trinitarian sympathizers avoiding the answers to very simple and honest requests for explanation of the rest of scripture. They feel safe in their comfort zone and will not even acknowledge the hard hitting facts of "DE TRINITAS ERRORIBUS" and the blatant bastardization of the original text by twisted servants, especially in the courts of King James (KJV)!!
That is why they murdered the Arian sympathizers and adopted the mantras of the Athanasian creed at the behest of an Evil convert called Constantine (check out the miracle of his conversion - it was hardly on the road to Damascus).
Podo
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TRINITY Challenge for JW's, Unitarians and Anyone Else
by UnDisfellowshipped intrinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
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@peacedog: You haven't had the decency to reply to me... call me and others strawmen.. typical of a person who flounders on theory and avoids the overwhelming facts: What are you saying about Jesus, is he Jehovah or not? Be plain... stop playing weasel.
Psalm 110:1; Revelation 3:7-13: This Strawman as you call me wants a clear answer: Either David was Schizophrenic and imagining the same person speaking to himself, and Jesus has another God and Father besides Jehovah, and is also suffering from the Cognitive Dissonance of the Trinitarian whirlpool..... or, Jesus is The Son of His God and His Father... as He says he is.
Please explain (fourth request).
Podo