from page 12:.
the theory of evolution tries to account for the origin of life on earth without the necessity of divine intervention.. .
false: simply plain false on both accounts.. however, the more that scientists discover about life, the less likely it appears that it could arise by chance.. false: author state conclusion which is not supported by the text.
I am only a medic bohm.. I can't make vital decision based on Theory. Thanks anyway. Gravity is a fact I can work with.. as part of an orderly Universe made by a Designer (God or Creator if you will).. I can work with that too. I guess the discussion will go on and on here.
Podo
from page 12:.
the theory of evolution tries to account for the origin of life on earth without the necessity of divine intervention.. .
false: simply plain false on both accounts.. however, the more that scientists discover about life, the less likely it appears that it could arise by chance.. false: author state conclusion which is not supported by the text.
For me the word Evolution refers more to the Adaptation of the Species rather than its Origin. The Origin came from direct creation, the Evolution came by Adapting to the Environment.
I agree with the comments made about weighting the arguments of others to suit their Creationist stance.. but, maybe the WT has a point..
The THEORY of Evolution has never been upgraded from that status since its inception. It has not even been listed as a WORKING HYPOTHESIS.
Can anyone explain why?
Podo
trinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
@ peacedog: just a comment on the Scripture will be suffice... thank you.. no animosity here just scriptural and historic fact. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. The facts of history are their own testimony.
Thank you for agreeing that Jesus is not the Jehovah of the Old Testament... now please elucidate on Revelation 3:7-12. You seem to snipe at the feet of others, for a change, let us see the logic of your reasoning throughout Scripture .... Who is the God and Father of Jesus (the exalted, resurrected and Immortal Jesus) in Revelation 3:7-12 please.
How many requests do I have to make? Your humble servant.... Sir,
Podo
trinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
@ Peacedog: I have already thanked you for clarifying your thought on Psalm 110 and congratulate you that agree that Jesus is NOT the YHWH of the Old Testament. Your thoughts on Revelation 3:7-12 ... I seem to have missed them. Perhaps you could rise above the sarcasm and elucidate. Thanks.
@djeggnog: Your last posting was an excellent and concise summary. Thank you. You will find that "Born Again" lurkers and Trinitarian sympathisers like Chalam, will spin around the same dozen or so passages of Scripture which have been transliterated to read in English with bias towards their Satanic/Pagan doctrine. The Bible everywhere else is very clear, even as Titus (the Poster) has pointed out in his native Croatian... that Jesus is the SERVANT of Jehovah.
Equally you will find these very same Trinitarian sympathizers avoiding the answers to very simple and honest requests for explanation of the rest of scripture. They feel safe in their comfort zone and will not even acknowledge the hard hitting facts of "DE TRINITAS ERRORIBUS" and the blatant bastardization of the original text by twisted servants, especially in the courts of King James (KJV)!!
That is why they murdered the Arian sympathizers and adopted the mantras of the Athanasian creed at the behest of an Evil convert called Constantine (check out the miracle of his conversion - it was hardly on the road to Damascus).
Podo
trinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
@peacedog: You haven't had the decency to reply to me... call me and others strawmen.. typical of a person who flounders on theory and avoids the overwhelming facts: What are you saying about Jesus, is he Jehovah or not? Be plain... stop playing weasel.
Psalm 110:1; Revelation 3:7-13: This Strawman as you call me wants a clear answer: Either David was Schizophrenic and imagining the same person speaking to himself, and Jesus has another God and Father besides Jehovah, and is also suffering from the Cognitive Dissonance of the Trinitarian whirlpool..... or, Jesus is The Son of His God and His Father... as He says he is.
Please explain (fourth request).
Podo
trinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
@ Think about it: You have a knack of hitting the nail right on the head. Well done! The debate did not exist in the early congregation because the doctrine of the Trinity did not exist. Jesus was born into Judaism, raised a Jew, lived the life of a Jew, celebrated as a Jew.. he acknowledges his God and Father prior to his birth, during his life and after his resurrection. It is so simple.
Bravo! Think'
Podo
trinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
@ peacedog: I am sorry if I have misunderstood your understanding of the point that I am trying to clarify here. The only point I am labouring (I also do not wish to appear to be ignoring the other research areas) is Undisfellowshipped's assertion that Jesus is the Jehovah of the New Testament. You agree that he is not.. thank you.. my viewpoint entirely, and that is why I have been waiting for a sound explanation of the passages in Psalm110:1 and Revelation 3:7-12. You promised to follow up on this once Debator had replied, that is all. And, thank you for your consideration.
@ Think About It: You probably are the closest mind set I have here... I was born into the Church of England, raised Pentecostal (drew the same conclusions on the Trinity as you have done) and converted to be a JW. Currently, I hold no religious affiliation, but have not abandoned my fundamental belief in an all loving Creator and an orderly, structured Universe. Spiritual but not religious.. I guess.
Podo
trinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
@Think about it: Cheers my friend, I cannot but see the obvious... why do we need complicated and disjointed Trinitaria theses?? Jehovah is the Father of Jesus, a quite separate being.. I am not minded to argue whether Jesus was an angel or not. All we know is that he has been exalted and has been given Immortality alongside his God and Father. How much more plain talk do Trinitarians want?
Howdy Sylv... just sitting typing over lunch break, have completed patient notes and about to start afternoon surgery... think of you all often, delighted that the "Universe" is healing you with its peace... Huggz, Podo
trinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
... "If you will conquor I will make you a pillar in the temple of My God; you will never go out of it. I will write on you the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem that comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name. Let anyone who has an ear listen to what the Spirit is saying to the churches. "And to the angel of the church of Laodicea write: The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the origin of God's creation.." Revelation 3:11-15.
Why go to all the trouble of explaining that he still has a God and reiterating that he was the origin of God's creation if he was one and the same as Jehovah. The text above spells it out for me...
Podo
trinity challenge using only the new world translation of the holy scriptures -- let us debate and reason on the scriptures about whether god almighty is a trinity, or is only one person.. on another thread, bane said that we know for a fact immediately that nearly all religions other than jehovah's witnesses are false because almost all of them believe in the trinity.
and bane claims he can "out-scripturize" anyone with the help of jehovah.
* the son was praying to the father.
@ Snowbird: Love yer Sylv.....!
