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  Final Observations

  by Esmeralda in

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  i'm an observant person.

  i became that way back in what i call the 'wallflower years' of my life, when i could very easily blend into the woodwork of any room i walked into without anyone looking up.

  i became a student of human nature and watched how people interacted, and that study has come in handy at many points.. sometimes, though, i don't realize when i'm opening a can of worms.

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  jimmyjames

  Hi Es,

  : I said that it made me feel bad when people complained that the board was better before the new people arrived

  Anyone who complains about that hasn't learned what a discussion board is for yet. What they're really looking for is a private mailing group, and that's where they need to go. It's easy enough to set one up, and it also takes less than a minute to set up a private chat room at talk city.

  What's really sorry is when people complain about the "atmosphere" or "morale" of a discussion board. Each post begins with the posters name and no one holds their eyes open and forces them to read the posts of people they don't want to read. It's not like a real house where you have to hear whatever someone says whether you like it or not. They have total control over what they read and who they listen to. Whining about someone else's presence on the board is just nonsense.

  : I think it's a shame that there is a counter that keeps track of the number of posts, effectively dividing people into 'classes'. It has left me feeling, at times, like I used to when the elders determined my worth by how many hours in field service I turned in

  It's one of the most useless features a discussion board can have. It tells you nothing about whether a person's posts are interesting or thought-provoking or worth spending time reading. I'd rather read a newbie who has something to say than a "jedi-member" (that's the highest one, right?), 90% of whoms posts amounted to something like:

  (((((((so-and-so)))))))!!!!! I think so too!

  : How long you keep posting on the boards will depend on several factors: how far you come in your recovery, how long it takes you to redefine yourself. Eventually, I believe, everyone moves on

  Or how many online friends you make on these boards. I've hardly talked about JW-related things in quite a while. I post here and chat because I admire a lot of posters I've met and want to stay in touch and read what they have to say.

  jimmyjames

  P.S. Don't take off for good Essie. The board will be missing a bright mind.
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  3 ways to live forever

  by jimmyjames in

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  #1. become a baptized, dedicated member of the jehovah's witness organization.

  use every opportunity available to convince other people to join.

  attend local meetings and follow the organization's rules and reccomendations in your daily life.

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  jimmyjames

  Joelbear: I can't connect to that site. Is that the right url?
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  3 ways to live forever

  by jimmyjames in

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  #1. become a baptized, dedicated member of the jehovah's witness organization.

  use every opportunity available to convince other people to join.

  attend local meetings and follow the organization's rules and reccomendations in your daily life.

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  #1. Become a baptized, dedicated member of the Jehovah's Witness organization. Use every opportunity available to convince other people to join. Attend local meetings and follow the organization's rules and reccomendations in your daily life. Make sure you are in "good standing" when Armageddon arrives to destroy wicked people.

  #2. Wait for human cloning and brain surgery to be perfected by medical science. Then do the following steps:

  A. Have yourself cloned.
  B. When you reach the age you no longer find acceptable, have your brain transplanted into the younger version of yourself. Continue to live your life in the same body you had when you were younger* until you once again reach the age you don't want to go beyond.
  C. Repeat the above steps indefinitely.

  *The life of your clone is another story.

  #3. Make your mark on the world. Teach your children, making sure that the quality of life for the next generation is better than what you had, teaching your children to do the same for their children. Make a difference in the world and do something to further the advancement of the human race, even if in a small way. Make your name remembered.

  Worry less about how long you've lived and more about how you lived and who you were.
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  Wow this board is busy

  by onthefence in

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  i guess that might say something in and of itself.. thanks to everybody who replied to my last post i just got through reading the responses.

  i have to say i didn't clarify my last post very well as i was pretty emotional at the time.

  i would definately fade out of the congo slowly if i could but the thing is i'm still living at home so it would be very hard to do.

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  OntheFence,

  my situation is about the reverse of yours. my parent was against jwism from the start and my sis and i were the only ones in our family to be jdubs.

  once found out what happened to me i wanted to leave but it was kind of hard to just "fade away" since i was involved in a lot of cong. activites like the mics, sound system and the literature counter and was expected to be at the meetings all the time. i was 19 then (i'm 22 now) people expected me to go to bethel or become an m.s. soon.

  i was pretty good at hiding what i really knew and felt for a while but i eventually decided to just stop going altogether, all at once. i was just a no-show for all my mic and lit. assignments. my sis had moved to florida so she didn't know what was going on. i got a few phone calls, and i believe just 2 visits (1 from an elder who just came because the c.o. was there and another from a j.w. couple looking for their daughter (why at my house i have no idea)).

  i'm in college now too and i'm glad i left and just sorry i didn't do it sooner. my advice is to get out if you don't believe in it and don't want your future in it. i know it's hard to do still living at home. as far as your family goes, i guess you're the only one who knows best how they'd react. my sister knows all about it now and we're pretty much the same as we always were, we just don't talk as often.

  good luck feel free to email ( [email protected])
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  WT CD alterations and omissions ?

  by jimmyjames in

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  hey guys.

  i've heard there were some editorial "cleanups" from the books/bound volumes to the wt cd.

  if anyone can post information on any changes made to the text of the litter-ature i'd appreciate it.

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  jimmyjames

  Hey guys

  I've heard there were some editorial "cleanups" from the books/bound volumes to the WT CD.

  If anyone can post information on any changes made to the text of the litter-ature I'd appreciate it.
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  Self Hypnosis

  by TR in

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  just wondering if any here have tried this, and what were your results.

  or, does it offend your religious and/or spiritual senses?.

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  jimmyjames

  TR,

  I can barely bring myself to respond to you after your blasphemous (and misinformed) trash on rap a few threads back. But I guess I can forgive.

  Actually I've always read that hypnosis is a condensed concentration rather than a sleep. An example is when you watch a movie and get so interested and involved that you forget you are in a movie theater and that there's people around you. That's why hypnotists often want their subjects to focus on an object until they forget their surroundings and they become suggestible.

  just my 3 cents.
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  "Upright" JW behaviour vs. "Worl...

  by Esmeralda in

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  i'm starting this thread because dedalus made such a good point in his post in the "what.

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  i won't quote his whole post here, but here's the link:.

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  jimmyjames

  Esmeralda,

  I just have to ask this because it itches me every time I read one of your posts- is that a picture of Michelle Forbes? If not, you look an AWFUL lot like her. (That's a compliment). :-)
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  What did you do?

  by StiLLinTruth in

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  to all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.

  come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.

  the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?

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  TR

  : in my town a JW slept with his own brother's wife. The offended JW put a few bullets in the windshield of his brother's car. The fornicating JW then ended up marrying his brothers wife.

  Similar situation in my old cong. The JW who first studied with me slept with his best friend's wife. The married couple divorced, and the two guilty parties were DF'd for a year, after which they were reinstated and married.

  They got what they wanted, and they still get to live forever!
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  What did you do?

  by StiLLinTruth in

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  to all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.

  come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.

  the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?

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  : Thought it would be "fun" to go and get drunk with worldly friends? Thought it would be cool to start smoking? ...You cheat on your wife or your husband? Fun to covet your neighbour's spouse? Or did you just decide to get a preview of what marriage is like, and get into some good pre-marital shagging?

  Why bother to leave? You can do all these things and remain a JW in good standing.
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  How long was it for you?

  by expatbrit in

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  i'm curious: how many years were you in before you left?

  by left, i mean either df'd and decided not to go back, or da'd, or faded, or even just realized it was a crock but stuck around anyway for family reasons?.

  we're told in la-la-land that it's the newly baptized, those who are "spiritually immature" that mostly leave.

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  jimmyjames

  I wasn't raised in the WTS, but was baptized at 16 and apostate by 19. I'm 22 now and it's been almost 4 years since I've been active.

  It's interesting that so many people that have logged in a lot of years with the WTS are able to finally realize what happened to them and get out, in spite of decades of beliefs being hammered in.

  On the other hand, maybe it's easier for long-timers than newbies to wake up because they have time to observe different things going on in the organization and building up cognitive dissonance from studying the publications and seeing inconsistencies. That'd be an interesting topic for debate.