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  Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?

  by sabastious in

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  i was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.

  john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.

  no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.

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  Matt: 10: 37-42: 37 "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38 and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.

  40 "He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the one who sent me. 41 Anyone who receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophet's reward, and anyone who receives a righteous man because he is a righteous man will receive a righteous man's reward. 42 And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones because he is my disciple, I tell you the truth, he will certainly not lose his reward."

  ^ What does the bolded text mean?

  I'm trying to figure out the context here:

  Anyone who helps out a follower of Jesus (Prophets and Rightous ones) will be rewarded the same reward of the Prophets and the Rightous? And if anyone gives a cup of water to the ones that helped the Prophets and the Rightous will be a beneficiary as well?

  -Sab
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  The Issue is Not that God WANTS Us to Suffer...

  by AGuest in

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  dear ones.

  rather, it is our adversary who says we will do anything... anything... to avoid it.

  a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g. even curse god to his face.

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  OTWO: The same argument can be applied to Christ's words. Tammy is just narrowing down her dubious content. She is still unwilling to yield if "Christ said it."

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  Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?

  by sabastious in

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  i was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.

  john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.

  no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.

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  Syl, you never answered this question:

  sabastious: Please give me an equally descriptive scripture(s) that supports your concept of "others coming to the Father, later on."

  John 14:6 is very easy to understand and descriptive as Jesus is talking to his disciples.

  Your argument to my OP is that Revalation accounts for the people Jesus is NOT referring to when he says:

  No one comes to the Father except through me

  Please give me an equally concise (not a parable or interpreted vision) scripture or scriptures that refers to this "other group" that is not counted in the above quote.

  -Sab
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  Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?

  by sabastious in

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  i was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.

  john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.

  no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.

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  sabastious

  There is no condemnation for them. How could there be?

  You said that they are not condemned because Revalation accounts for those who I am referring to (people in countries not availble to Christianity for what ever reason).

  Revalation is a terrible reference IMO. It has about 10 trillian different interpretations (yet you seem to quote it like it's obvious, think about that for a second.)

  -Sab
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  Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?

  by sabastious in

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  i was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.

  john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.

  no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.

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  sabastious

  I use a paraphrased Bible (The Message) because it gets the point across better than most.

  I looked up a few of the scriptures you posted in actual translations and there were some very questionable differences.

  I would suggest using a translation if you are going to use the Bible to prove a point.

  -Sab
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  Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?

  by sabastious in

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  i was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.

  john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.

  no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.

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  sabastious

  suggesting that all POVs are equal is silly at best.

  Indeed, I believe the "everybody's a winner" argument is very lazy thinking.

  -Sab
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  If you had the power, would you erase humans from existence?

  by sabastious in

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  if you could, would you make it so humans never existed?

  because of all the pain and suffering humans have endured for millenia and, in turn, erasing all the glee and bliss experienced as well.. -sab.

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  sabastious

  arimatthewdavies

  I can't see your posts.

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  If you had the power, would you erase humans from existence?

  by sabastious in

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  if you could, would you make it so humans never existed?

  because of all the pain and suffering humans have endured for millenia and, in turn, erasing all the glee and bliss experienced as well.. -sab.

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  sabastious

  ^ interesting

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  Getting Old Can Be So Good

  by believingxjw in

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  getting old is one of the most beautiful things in my life.

  sure, i get tired easily and i have my physical limitations but it is a wonderful place nonetheless!.

  perspective!

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  sabastious

  Very cool post

  -Sab
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  Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?

  by sabastious in

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  i was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.

  john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.

  no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.

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  sabastious

  The conversation I am having with some Christians on this thread REALLY reminds me of some of the debates I have had with Witnesses in regards to the DF'ing arrangement.

  The Witnesses just can't get it out of their head that DF'ing isn't loving. They refuse to examine their belief.

  They put the blinders up and hide behind pious words.

  Very similar to what is going on here in this thread.

  -Sab