i was just talking to my wife this morning about underlining or highlighting the wt paragraphs.. when i was 13 years old i would fight with my dad because i refused to highlight the answers.. the reason was because i wanted my comment to be genuine.
i felt that highlighting the "answer" made me lean on just using that as a crutch and not truly putting it in my own words.. i still hold that argument now, and i am 26. the only reason you would ever have to highlight something in a study book would be if you needed to remember it, maybe it is fairly complicated or subtle information that could be easily forgotten.. so many times in the wt the "question" has the same phrase that's in the paragraph!
it's literally like playing connect the dots.. so what i would do is not highlight during the family study.
I was deeply disturbed at age 9 when I saw in the MBofBS (My Book of Bull Sh!t) the picture of the mom holding her little baby while sitting on a rock while flood waters swirled around them.
It's odd that the WTS would go out of the way to show specifically the babies dying.
watching religulous.
http://www.paganizingfaithofyeshua.netfirms.com/comparsison_horus_jesus_chart.htm (more charts on site).
comparison of the lives of horus and jesus: coincidence?mstheme.
tec,
What organization doesn't pad their case? It's really something to think about. Life is all about wading through bullshit looking for diamonds.
-Sab
i was just talking to my wife this morning about underlining or highlighting the wt paragraphs.. when i was 13 years old i would fight with my dad because i refused to highlight the answers.. the reason was because i wanted my comment to be genuine.
i felt that highlighting the "answer" made me lean on just using that as a crutch and not truly putting it in my own words.. i still hold that argument now, and i am 26. the only reason you would ever have to highlight something in a study book would be if you needed to remember it, maybe it is fairly complicated or subtle information that could be easily forgotten.. so many times in the wt the "question" has the same phrase that's in the paragraph!
it's literally like playing connect the dots.. so what i would do is not highlight during the family study.
I was just talking to my wife this morning about underlining or highlighting the WT paragraphs.
When I was 13 years old I would fight with my dad because I refused to highlight the answers.
The reason was because I wanted my comment to be genuine. I felt that highlighting the "answer" made me lean on just using that as a crutch and not truly putting it in my own words.
I still hold that argument now, and I am 26. The only reason you would ever have to highlight something in a study book would be if you needed to remember it, maybe it is fairly complicated or subtle information that could be easily forgotten.
So many times in the WT the "question" has the same phrase that's in the paragraph! It's literally like playing connect the dots.
So what I would do is NOT highlight during the family study. Then when it was read again on the stage, I would have to listen to it again and I would figure out a way to answer it (if I was going to comment) while he was reading. I had to create a comment on the fly.
Highlighting 1 or 2 sentences of a 5-7 sentence paragraph and then psudo-reading it as a comment was not a challenge to me at all once I hit teenagehood.
It really shows that even at a young age, I was questioning the very policy of the WT. I think deep down I knew I didn't want to be a drone. I wanted an intellectual challenge, one that could not be offered by the WTS.
-Sab
i read a thread a while back about the theory of the kingdom hall meeting framework applying a form of hypnosis.. .
ever since i read that i have been really mulling it over.. .
the kingdom hall meetings have two main formats:.
darth frosty, thank you for the link, currently reading it.
I'm starting to see little difference between a suicide bomber and these types of death dealing teachings. And the fact that hypnosis might be involved makes it a possible legitiment legal thing, which is always a good thing! Kind of like Samual Adams Lagers!
-Sab
ok, this is driving me nuts for whatever reason i cant get past the bolded part.
can someone maybe explain that a little?
if this even makes sense, im usually not t his dense, i've been reading this for ever and for some reason i keep getting thrown off track at that part.
I know scholar has heard this many times and has already firmly justified it in his head... but you have openly defied WT policy 1870 times by posting here....
Doesn't that willful disobedience of the "faithful slave" constitute a "practicer of sin"?
Therefore, if you are a practicer of sin, then you have no Holy Spirit, according to WT doctrine.
If you have no Holy Spirit, how can you speak for God's Eathly Organization?
My guess is you look at this board as a personal challenge, and are overstepping "God's annointed leadership."
What does the WT say about people who do this?
-Sab
on a warm summer day when i was about 12 years old (early 1980s), i was home alone for a brief time (family had gone to the grocery store).
i had always been terrified of the demons and was constantly worried about a possible demon attack.
being born in, growing up a dub, the devil and his demons were always either on my mind or not too far from conscious thought.
So you are saying your masturbation caused an earthquake?
i read a thread a while back about the theory of the kingdom hall meeting framework applying a form of hypnosis.. .
ever since i read that i have been really mulling it over.. .
the kingdom hall meetings have two main formats:.
@nextdoorgirl
Thanks for the support! I gave this topic a few months of thought ( I think recreationally :D ) before I made this post.
To add to it. I really do believe that the WTS doesn't apply this technique knowingly. Which is very dangerous, as we have seen since the WT's inception.
-Sab
i read a thread a while back about the theory of the kingdom hall meeting framework applying a form of hypnosis.. .
ever since i read that i have been really mulling it over.. .
the kingdom hall meetings have two main formats:.
I read a thread a while back about the theory of the Kingdom Hall Meeting framework applying a form of Hypnosis.
Ever since I read that I have been really mulling it over.
The Kingdom Hall Meetings have two main formats:
Public Discourses
Lectures can feel very hypnotic if they are information you already know or are not interested in. But that is not what makes Public Discourses truly hypnotic in my opinion.
From my experience, what applies hypnosis is Rhythm. Rocking chairs sooth infants for a reason: because humans are soothed by rhythmic motion, it puts the mind at ease.
So, with this in mind I have thinking a lot about how do Public Discourses apply rhythm?
The scriptures.
Now I don't really believe that this hypnosis is premeditated by the Watchtower society. It is reasonable to believe that their are many other explanations for why the audience is required to bring their Bibles and why little kids get disciplined for not looking up the scriptures.
But think about it. The application is the same 100% of the time. All the Talk Outlines have the same exact formula:
Make a a point or a few points, immediately followed by a supporting scripture.
So how does make a rhythm (think pendulum)?
Reading something is processed differently in the brain than just hearing something. Same goes along with writing, which is done by many with notes as well. Although a side point I think people that take notes are not hypnotized as much because they have to cognitively create on the fly (by putting the notes in their own words or shorthand). Which doesn't allow for the mind to be at ease as much as just getting "rocked in the chair."
So the people who aren't taking notes are in effect swinging in a mind pendulum: Hearing supporting points and then reading supporting scriptures and then hearing why the scripture was read or moving onto the next point.
Right, Left, Right, Left, Right, Left.
To boot, there is only a core of about 100 baseline topics (maybe?) that are ever talked about.
This happens for decades... think about it!
Question and Answer
Question and Answer is a little easier to explain why it can apply hypnosis than the above.
Think about school for a second. Think about Ferris Bueller's Day Off and many other movies who have parodied Question and Answer learning formats. They are fairly ineffective and frankly boring.
The best time you have ever had learning something is in open forum right? When the question can be added to on the fly and new questions can be asked?
The Witnesses might be naive enough to think that they are having a "discussion" but all it is is the scene from Ferris Bueller's Day Off when the teacher is just putting blanks in his statement and asking the classmates to fill them in.
Anyway, the format is strikingly similar every Meeting. People RARELY deviate from the paragraph or supporting scriptures from the paragraph. It is not a stretch to call this a Rhythmic Motion of question and answer.
Right, Left, Right, Left, Right, Left.
Here lies the key to why the Witnesses are SO DAMN cultish and why so many members SIMPLY CANNOT transcend their doctrine without a mental breakdown.
DO NOT STOP THE PENDULUM!
At to top it off, how did your family studies go? EXACTLY THE SAME WAY right? That's because Witnesses (as well as pendulums) are exceedingly predictable.
This explains why every time I talk to a witness that is regular at the meetings that I find myself talking to someone distracted because all they see in their head is a swinging pendulum and they don't want the rocking chair to stop.
And when I talk to someone who is not regular at the meetings they are immensely more willing to talk. They are more "available."
-Sab
does anyone else have the same problem.
when i'm alone, i am constantly thinking about all the clever things i'm going to say if visited by the elders, but when i actually get confronted, these things never come to mind, and i keep spitting out drivel like some dumb idiot.
after they leave, i rethink the conversation, and i'm furious over all the oppotunities i've missed to put them in their place.......damn it!!!!!
"The Jerk Store called... they're running outta you."
wannabfree's thread about being ashamed of being suckered in to the big lie got me to thinking.
i wish my grandma was still alive so i could ask her what it was that attracted her to the jws.
she was raised methodist- our family still has a small church in her birthplace, got a degree back when it was rare for black people to do so.
Of course I did also say that about having a black president, so who knows...
He's not black he's just a mexican that is changing his accent.
