OTWO: The same argument can be applied to Christ's words. Tammy is just narrowing down her dubious content. She is still unwilling to yield if "Christ said it."
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The Issue is Not that God WANTS Us to Suffer...
by AGuest indear ones.
rather, it is our adversary who says we will do anything... anything... to avoid it.
a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g. even curse god to his face.
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Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?
by sabastious ini was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.
john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.
no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.
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sabastious
Syl, you never answered this question:
sabastious: Please give me an equally descriptive scripture(s) that supports your concept of "others coming to the Father, later on."
John 14:6 is very easy to understand and descriptive as Jesus is talking to his disciples.
Your argument to my OP is that Revalation accounts for the people Jesus is NOT referring to when he says:
No one comes to the Father except through me
Please give me an equally concise (not a parable or interpreted vision) scripture or scriptures that refers to this "other group" that is not counted in the above quote.
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Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?
by sabastious ini was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.
john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.
no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.
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sabastious
There is no condemnation for them. How could there be?
You said that they are not condemned because Revalation accounts for those who I am referring to (people in countries not availble to Christianity for what ever reason).
Revalation is a terrible reference IMO. It has about 10 trillian different interpretations (yet you seem to quote it like it's obvious, think about that for a second.)
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Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?
by sabastious ini was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.
john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.
no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.
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sabastious
I use a paraphrased Bible (The Message) because it gets the point across better than most.
I looked up a few of the scriptures you posted in actual translations and there were some very questionable differences.
I would suggest using a translation if you are going to use the Bible to prove a point.
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Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?
by sabastious ini was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.
john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.
no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.
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sabastious
suggesting that all POVs are equal is silly at best.
Indeed, I believe the "everybody's a winner" argument is very lazy thinking.
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If you had the power, would you erase humans from existence?
by sabastious inif you could, would you make it so humans never existed?
because of all the pain and suffering humans have endured for millenia and, in turn, erasing all the glee and bliss experienced as well.. -sab.
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If you had the power, would you erase humans from existence?
by sabastious inif you could, would you make it so humans never existed?
because of all the pain and suffering humans have endured for millenia and, in turn, erasing all the glee and bliss experienced as well.. -sab.
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sabastious
^ interesting
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Getting Old Can Be So Good
by believingxjw ingetting old is one of the most beautiful things in my life.
sure, i get tired easily and i have my physical limitations but it is a wonderful place nonetheless!.
perspective!
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sabastious
Very cool post
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Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?
by sabastious ini was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.
john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.
no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.
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sabastious
The conversation I am having with some Christians on this thread REALLY reminds me of some of the debates I have had with Witnesses in regards to the DF'ing arrangement.
The Witnesses just can't get it out of their head that DF'ing isn't loving. They refuse to examine their belief.
They put the blinders up and hide behind pious words.
Very similar to what is going on here in this thread.
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Christians: Do you believe Jesus is the only way?
by sabastious ini was walking around town and a guy on a bike comes up to and shoves a cardboard bum sign in my face with "jesus is the only way" written in classy sharpy marker.. check out this scripture:.
john 14: 6 - jesus answered, "i am the way and the truth and the life.
no one comes to the father except through me.. according to this scripture the guy's sharpy message was correct.. do you believe this message?.
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sabastious
By "trust the Bible," I mean at least believe that it accurately records the words of Jesus.
So it's ok to believe that the Bible didn't accurately record the Hebrew history? Or if Paul was a nutcase? And still be in your definition of "trusting the Bible"?
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