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  Lady Lee- who are you, and what's YOUR story?

  by theMadJW in

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  since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.

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  AK-Jeff - is there anyway to confirm that letter's validity?

  -Sab
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  Can you accept hard to swallow reality?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  2. experiences

  for instance: in the matter of 'shunning' - are individual jehovah's witnesses evil?.

  due to our previous 'training' it is still difficult for many of us to accept that jehovah's witnesses are actually evil.

  i don't mean the organization - an 'organization' is just a term to describe people who unite for a common goal or purpose.

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  I don't know, this is a tricky topic for me.

  On one hand, I think that JWs are mentall comprimised, on the other I have seen many break the bonds BECAUSE their conscience was bothering them, does that mean the other JWs don't have good consciences or have they just turned off their conscience?

  It makes my head hurt when I REALLY think about this.

  -Sab
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  If you were a tarantula, which would you prefer?

  by sabastious in

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  1. you live in terrarium, have all your physical needs met and live to a ripe old age.. or.

  2. you live in your natrual habitat and of course have to hunt for sustenance and have to deal with the possibilities of your untimely end.. -sab.

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  Why do we even have tarantulas? What purpose do they serve?

  They are fighting for existence just like the rest of us.

  Don't hate on the eight leggers, hate on flees and mosquitos and tape worms!

  -Sab
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  Why do some expect the WTS to one day end? It's simply not going to happen folks........

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my anger as an ex witness about 4 years ago i really wished that this would happen.

  although the glaring errors, hypocrisy & downright badness of the wts was finally evident to me personally, others whom i had expeced to eventually leave the org have not.. i think it dawned on me around 1 or 2 years ago that my wife will never leave the witnesses.

  having presented in both heated & reasonable debate every kind of logical argument against the religions teachings the conversations would get to the point where she would simply refuse to answer my questions.

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  Another damning fact is the retention of WT youth. WT youth have been the BACKBONE of the Org for many years.

  How many Witnesses would there be today if the same ratio that leaves today left back in the day?

  They are dying, IMO.

  -Sab
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  Why do some expect the WTS to one day end? It's simply not going to happen folks........

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my anger as an ex witness about 4 years ago i really wished that this would happen.

  although the glaring errors, hypocrisy & downright badness of the wts was finally evident to me personally, others whom i had expeced to eventually leave the org have not.. i think it dawned on me around 1 or 2 years ago that my wife will never leave the witnesses.

  having presented in both heated & reasonable debate every kind of logical argument against the religions teachings the conversations would get to the point where she would simply refuse to answer my questions.

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  sabastious

  The Worldwide Church of God just disbanded. The same thing could happen the WT Society.

  The Catholic Church is a bad example. They have been around for a LOOOONNNGGG time and are rooted deep into the generations of many families. The Witnesses are a rogue group with little power and influence.

  The fact that as many people have left the WT that are currently in (7 million) speaks volumes to what we could see in the future.

  The internet has hurt the WT and their counter play is laughable.

  The WT, in some form, will always exist, but I would be willing to wager that in 15-20 years we wont even be able to recognize it.

  -Sab
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  If you were a tarantula, which would you prefer?

  by sabastious in

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  1. you live in terrarium, have all your physical needs met and live to a ripe old age.. or.

  2. you live in your natrual habitat and of course have to hunt for sustenance and have to deal with the possibilities of your untimely end.. -sab.

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  Insects should not be big as mice and hairy. Yuck.

  One, a spider is not an insect, and two, tarantula's are much larger than mice.

  -Sab
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  If you were a tarantula, which would you prefer?

  by sabastious in

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  1. you live in terrarium, have all your physical needs met and live to a ripe old age.. or.

  2. you live in your natrual habitat and of course have to hunt for sustenance and have to deal with the possibilities of your untimely end.. -sab.

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  blondie and butterfly have been disqualified from the game!

  -Sab
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  ex-elders, present elders, and sexual abuse survivors or their families

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  help needed on this thread.

  lady lee- who are you, and what's your story?.

  madjw thinks the wts' policy is sufficient to deal wtih cases of sexual abuse of children.

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  Elders - they don't investigate a CRIME, but a SIN. They need 2 witnesses.

  Police - they investigate a CRIME, and they have their methods.

  Sin should never be investigated. The only reason why "sin" affects other people is because of the Doctrine of Bloodguilt, which is a load of crap.

  If a "sin" that is a crime is uncovered by the elders, they should default to the secular authorities.

  -Sab
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  If you were a tarantula, which would you prefer?

  by sabastious in

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  1. you live in terrarium, have all your physical needs met and live to a ripe old age.. or.

  2. you live in your natrual habitat and of course have to hunt for sustenance and have to deal with the possibilities of your untimely end.. -sab.

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  1. You live in terrarium, have all your physical needs met and live to a ripe old age.

  or

  2. You live in your natrual habitat and of course have to hunt for sustenance and have to deal with the possibilities of your untimely end.

  -Sab
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  The Dawkins Delusion

  by brotherdan in

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  2. bible

  so, i recently finished reading "the god delusion" by richard dawkins.

  i read it with a certain amount of hesitation.

  after all, i am still recovering from my disappointment at realizing that the wts is not god's organization.

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  sabastious

  Stephen; the Psalms are beautiful and poetic and provably wrong. If you want to live in beautiful, poetic ignorance be my guest.

  /applaud

  -Sab