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  Watchtower installs a "Trojan Horse" in their followers and take over their brain

  by TastingFreedom in

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  i'm convinced jw's are under sooo much brainwashing and fully indoctrinated that their brains are disabled.

  they will never analyze or question any beliefs.

  it is all about the emotions, their brains are literally paralyzed.

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  Watchtower installs a "Trojan Horse" in their followers and take over their brain

  by TastingFreedom in

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  i'm convinced jw's are under sooo much brainwashing and fully indoctrinated that their brains are disabled.

  they will never analyze or question any beliefs.

  it is all about the emotions, their brains are literally paralyzed.

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  TastingFreedom

  You have an excellent point, it may be possible to overcome or bypass the mental triggers by avoiding use of the "loaded language" such as kingdom, armageddon, great crowd, resurrection, etc. However, I still think it's not the words, but the emotions that are created.

  The triggers execute on emotions, what you feel...not necessarily on what words you hear.

  Singing Kingdom melodies, for instance, immediately gives a sense of feeling good...triggers emotions. If there was a talk that included things that didn't make sense. You immediately get distracted with the song, and forget your doubts or questions about the talk. Now you feel great about singing praises to Jehovah. He will be the one that will provide the answer at some point. He will clarify things in the future. We have to trust in him --not in ourselves. We are imperfect, flesh, sinful and not worthy to question anything. Jehovah uses his organization, who provides perfect guidance in our lives for the present time. We have to be humble and submit to it, otherwise, bad things will happen to us. (FEAR)

  Same thing happens after the Watchtower study, you may not fully understand something, even disagree, have doubts about some of the points being argued. You're only supposed to underline the answers, and not even research the points. When you're barely starting to think about something, you have anoter kindomg melody to sing (makes you feel good), then prayer, which is a way to blank your brain (which shuts down the analytical part of the brain). Then you have the great association from the friends, the sensation of feeling good is reinforced... So it's all about feeling good. You are conditioned over and over again about feeling good, and to set aside your thinking ability, forget doubts. This happens over and over again....until your brain is fully disabled, it's all about feeling good.

  Helping someone to become less emotional and more analytical is the key. Being able to overcome the fear and the guilt. Helping someone by replacing the emptyness left out from leaving the cult is the key to being able to overcome such a critical transition. Provide a sense of purpose a sense of belonging is very important before you can attempt to leave a cult.
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  Watchtower installs a "Trojan Horse" in their followers and take over their brain

  by TastingFreedom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm convinced jw's are under sooo much brainwashing and fully indoctrinated that their brains are disabled.

  they will never analyze or question any beliefs.

  it is all about the emotions, their brains are literally paralyzed.

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  I'm convinced JW's are under sooo MUCH brainwashing and fully indoctrinated that their brains are disabled. They will never analyze or question any beliefs. It is all about the emotions, their brains are literally paralyzed. They cannot do any critical thinking. They will never question or debate any ideas with logic, coherence and facts. It's all about circular reasoning on flawed data/logic that leads no where. Their arguments will always be biased on the doctrines imposed by the Watchtower.

  At any moment where they may start to think or question something, mental triggers will kick in to induce guilt and fear, this starts a chain reaction to shutdown the brain. It's actually a very basic formula. They have been literally programmed like a machine to stop working when something is considered a threat to their survival. The routine is simple; induce emotions for everything and shutdown any critical thinking abilities. The brains are essentially wired to protect the Watchtower identity (self-sacrifice, slave mentality).

  Emotions are basic survival instincts that prioritize based on the extent that something could pose a threat to a person's life. Anything that can endanger your survival has a higher priority. Anything that causes fear will be avoided at all cost. That's why the BORG will build the concept of a "spiritual counciousness" that guards against any ideas that may be considered a threat. They basically protect those mental triggers and reinforce the guilt and the fear with shunning, and other cult practices.

  They have literally installed a "trojan horse" in your brain that acts like a firewall that blocks the ports that communicate with the brain. This analogy may be the best way to illustrate what effect they have on a person's abilities to think on his/her own. They destroy that ability to trust in your own belief system and to constantly fight it.

  They like to use the concept of the heart (based on emotions) as being a lot more important than the brain. But they will tell you, the "heart is treacherous", not to trust it. Basically, they want you to get rid of your own thoughts...and only accept what we they tell you!

  From my personal experience and seeing others, you need a major shake up in a person's life that could cause a reboot of the brain, in order to start thinking on your own and to start questioning your belief system with logic and research. You have to start from scratch. This is the only way to bring down the firewall that could enable the brain to start functioning again.

  Any explanation from the Watchtower on anything will be sufficient to accept their beliefs, it doesn't have to make sense (e.g. "blood fractions", "generation overlap", etc.). This is the case for the great majority of witnesses, they will keep going without thinking. They encourage that behaviour, the acceptable way to gain status and to have a sense of belonging and purpose within the cult.

  The cult is all about denying yourself as an individual with free will, getting rid of the self. That explains why birthdays are not allowed, anything that excels the self is forbidden (e.g. masturbation, etc..). It's all about the collective (the group, the leadership), the great fellowship around the world, God's people on earth and not about what you think, but rather what is imposed on you from the group.

  This is how I can summarize the cult mind control and how they've managed to have so much control on millions of people.

  Your thoughts?
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  Unitarian Universalism

  by changeling in

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  has anyone here gone that route?

  i've been reading up on them and they sound interesting.

  they even accept atheists!

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  TastingFreedom

  I have attended a couple of times, and enjoyed it. But not willing to commit or volunteer for anything.
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  The World Cup (An American Man Responds) VERY FUNNY!!!!!

  by whereami in

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  hahahahahahaha!!!!!!.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv0oqxcicy8.

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  TastingFreedom

  Some people will never understand the level of skill with the FOOT and the FINESSE in how this sport is played to control the BALL .

  Take this:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2zFqqskFM4
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  World Cup 2010 - I cant wait!

  by lepermessiah in

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  i am so excited for this weekend...... any predictions on winners, players to watch, etc?.

  the usa/england match will be interesting.. the media in the states is trying to rile up people by showing the liverpool fans who burned the us flag.. http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/worldcup/story/american-flag-burning-by-liverpool-fans-should-incense-yanks.

  frankly, from what i can tell, american ownership has been a bad thing in the premiership.

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  First exciting Game this morning for opening the World Cup. The hosts were obviously favored, as Mexico was stolen one goal!

  Look forward to the next games!!
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  Roll call - How many here fake being a "good Jehovah's Witness"....like me!

  by Witness 007 in

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  there is no truth...i know that.

  to please my mum while she's alive and wife i go to meetings and the 3 day convention coming up.

  i would rather go to the dentist.

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  TastingFreedom

  I faked it for three years, then I got sick to my stomach, literally wanted to throw up in the KH.

  No more BULL.
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  When I was taught to hate

  by TastingFreedom in

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  Thanks PSacramento for posting the scriptures.

  From reading those bible verses, it's obvious that it's not talking about the Watchtower organization and its followers!

  We always believed that was the case, but it is so obvious now looking at it from the outside.
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  When I was taught to hate

  by TastingFreedom in

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  It is quite known how much love is preached by the "Jehovah's people", at each meeting there will be talk about loving thy neighbor, love of brothers, love of the elderly, love to the "Organization" and other demonstrations of love, all that looks good. Indeed it is all good, we could never debate that, but is it just that? Is the "Organization" all love like God is love (1 John 4: 8 )? In all truth, I would have liked it to be so, but it is not, unfortunately.

  When one investigates the reality of things with a warm heart but with a cool head, one can realize that the "Organization" taught us to hate, saying we should hate what is evil, we should hate what Jehovah hates but really taught us to hate what the "Organization" hates.

  The "Organization" taught us to hate things that have nothing to do with common sense, such as addictions or degrading acts like criminal practices. Rather, we are taught to hate other religions, taught us to hate the government, taught to hate people who don't think as the "Organization" dictates, taught us to hate those who do not believe in what the "Organization" believes.

  The "Organization" taught us to call "whore and prostitutes" any other religious organization. This “organization” taught us to call "Babylon" their places of worship and religion. Taught us to call "goats" those who do not accept the message of this "Organization". Taught us that the holidays that our family celebrate to share and give affection are "the table of demons ". Taught us that our country and its national emblems are disgusting idols. Taught us to be homophobes, but above all, taught us to hate those who investigate the errors of this organization of human beings by calling them "apostates", these are the ones most hated.

  In fact, the love within the "Organization" is just a beautiful dream or desire, but only applies to one who "belongs to the club", as you step out of this club, love disappears for that person, even if this is a close relative, for the same "Organization" suggests to cut the communication and all ties with that person, totally misinterpreting what the scripture says.

  The Christianity that this "Organization" practices is adulterated and corrupted. It has been structured to serve its own selfish interests. What does it do about the commandment "to love your enemy" (Matthew 5: 43 and 44)? Is this symbolic like all those “new light” understandings on things where the "Organization" uses its own interpretation?

  With respect to other religions that this "Organization" hates and by calling itself the only terrestrial channel to turn to God, thus, denying that someone with a good heart can get salvation on the sole fact that he/she belongs to other religious organization. That is not the reality of the Gospels. We find Jesus was tolerant with people in his time and was not demanding exclusiveness. There is a case where a man who had been freed from a demon called Legion, when he wanted to "follow" Jesus, he told him "go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee", was not told to preach the teachings of Jesus. (Mark Chapter 5)

  I think it is time to get to think that hate does not leave us positive things, hatred breeds more hatred and it is not good. If you look straight and confront those erroneous teachings with courage and determination in order to understand that love of thy neighbor are found everywhere and can be shown at any time and not just those that the organization calls a "brother/sister". Oppose this organization's teaching that teaches hatred to those that are no longer considered our brother/sister, as if they have been discarded as a "straw for the fire" when they think differently than them.

  Moreover, should we hate the "Organization" for such education? Well, I must say that hating is not the right thing to do, rather we should expose their misinterpretations with courage, that way others don't continue to follow those teachings blindly, and hopefully people can make their own judgment based on the true teachings in the bible, and not based on the twisted interpretations by the Watchtower organization.

  (Inspired by some thoughts from David Salinas)
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  World Cup Predictions

  by XJW4EVR in

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  my fantasy pick to win it all is the usa.

  my real pick is italy.. what say you?.

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  TastingFreedom

  

  CHAMPIONS !!!

  Ok, I've gotta have faith!