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  Most Jehovah's Witnesses dont want ex-JWs, dis-fellowshipped, disassociated to be successful!!!

  by Joliette in

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  or to acheieve any goals in their life.

  and how dare you try to enjoy your life in this sick and demonic world.

  dont you know that this world wont be here for long?

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  MMXIV

  This will sound harsh but it's my honest experience:

  I've never met such a goldfish bowl of jealousy and envy. They were positively gleeful when someone who left would be working part time delivering pizzas. They even used this in their answers at the W/T but added some fake pity. They also had an incredible ability to assume they themselves could easily have been more successful. "I'd have been a rock star if I wasn't in the truth" syndrome.

  Also rather than hate for others to be successful I noted that they often didn't really acknowledge success. Sometimes this was because they didn't understand how hard people have to work to earn a lot of money or compared someone's achievments to an even more famous person. Some were too thick to understand or so self absorbed in their own JW community.

  This is based on numerous this said about people who didn't go to all the meetings, those who were "weak" and those who had left. Especially those who had left.

  There is a patter of modesty that JW's learn, but many are far from modest, caring or empathetic. Some are, but the cult brings out the worst in people.

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  Watchtower investment managers listed by Linkedin

  by Gorbatchov in

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  at linkedin, you will find the following watchtower investment managers @ new york:.

  gary carver.

  paul niergarth.

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  MMXIV

  Ahhh best one yet.... Pioneer Wannabe own up - which one of you is it?

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  Watchtower investment managers listed by Linkedin

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at linkedin, you will find the following watchtower investment managers @ new york:.

  gary carver.

  paul niergarth.

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  MMXIV

  oh my word, there are dozens of professions listed there including, missionary, proof reader, unbaptised publisher, fleet manager, prop master....

  I wonder why they feel the need to network with worldly people on the internet?

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  How Come I Rarely See People In Field Service, Vs The 1980-1990s Doing House2House?

  by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  field service hours have hit new records each year, but i am seeing less people working the territory.

  where is all the time spent, that people are putting in the field ministry?

  it's been close to ten years, since i have seen people working certain territories.

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  They did my road on Saturday, I was driving home and saw a group of maybe 8 or 10, mostly teenage girls standing on the corner. They finished the long road 20 minutes later so clearly no-one was interested. It's the first time in years I've seen them though. I used to get mormons call more frequently or charity workers wanting donations which is probably quite unusual for the UK.

  In my old territory we used to cover it consistently every 6-9 months for 20 years, however given that not homes were done twice, it might have seemed as though we called every few months.

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  Drawings of NEW Watchtower World Headquarters in Warwick, New York

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  scroll down to last few pages to see the drawings.... http://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20m_swppp%20&%20drawings.pdf.

  among the ammenities are a sand volley ball court, two tennis courts and a full basketball court.... there's also parking garages and picnic areas for visitors.... by the way, not sure exactly what this is but you'll notice a shaded area labelled "undergound chamber"... interesting.... (i wonder if moving out to the middle of nowhere was intended to keep bethelites from sneaking out at night and going to the liquor store... just saying).

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  Please keep our buddy SD-7 in your thoughts (and prayers)!

  by serenitynow! in

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  2. friends

  sd-7 texted me today.

  his wife is in labor, has had some complications and is having an emergency c-section.

  he asked me to spread the word to the folks on jwn.

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  MMXIV

  well congrats and hope the little SD-0.7 likes sleep

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  I am speechless over the latest tactic to get people to Pioneer!

  by iclone in

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  MMXIV

  hey am I missing something here?... 30 hours in a month and you get called a pioneer???

  That's basically a sales job handing out leaflets for 4 Saturdays - how does that in any way shape or form live up to the definition of a pioneer?

  joke name for a joke job

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  "Ooooohhhh I just CANT WAIT for Armageddon!"

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my congregation i could name at least 10 brothers, and likely more, who just couldnt wait for armageddon to come.

  the way they spoke about it clearly showed that they were just so excited.

  you could just see their eyes light up at the prospect of the wicked being destroyed and removed from this earth.

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  I used to find those make-believe conversations so wierd. Luckily most of the younger dubs I spent time with were focused very much on the here and now. In fact most would change the subject if raised - I think they were uncomfortable talking about it because it was simply too unreal - showed they didn't actualy believe it.

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  I am speechless over the latest tactic to get people to Pioneer!

  by iclone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  MMXIV

  This tactic will work - for some it is very hard to say no especially to a personal request from an elder. Pressure, pressure, pressure.

  What does the phrase the "dirty thirty" relate too - surely not how many hours is required now? have I been out that long?

  What are the target hours for Auxiliary, Regular Auxiliary and Regular Pioneering?

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  the Ireland branch--> issues over the years

  by WildeLover in

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  2. scandals

  hi all.

  the irish branch has had lots of drama over the years from john may in the 1980s to the recent removal of practically all the branch committee in the mid noughties to its being closed down quite recently.. i heard on the grapevine that two of the branch committee had actually come to physical blows and there was blood on the carpet.. also many many witnesses spoke of the totalitarian environment there.. does anyone have anything further to corroborate or add to this?.

  wildelover.

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  MMXIV

  I believe I read on JWN it was closed due to a widespread cost cutting exercise although no doubt there would be a number of other issues involved such as control. The branch was pretty tiny (effectively a large extended house) with only a dozen or two of live-ins so probably very quick to bring those duties in-house to London bethel.

  It certainly would have been perceived as a negative step from the Irish JW's perspective no matter what spin was used.

  mmxiv