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  Not Breaking News: Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower Under Police Investigation

  by Scott77 in

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  2. current

  police inquiry over jehovah's witness magazine 'mentally diseased' articlehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8791196/police-inquiry-over-jehovahs-witness-magazine-mentally-diseased-article.html.

  telegraph.co.uk</form>sunday 24 june 2012. homenewsworldsportfinancecommentblogsculturetravellifefashiontechdatingoffersjobspoliticsobitseducationearthsciencedefencehealthscotlandroyalcelebritiesweirdhomenewsreligionpolice inquiry over jehovah's witness magazine 'mentally diseased' articlean official magazine for jehovah's witnesses that described those who leave the church as "mentally diseased" is at the centre of a police inquiry, it has emerged.the watchtower is the official magazine of jehovah's witnesses photo: alamy9:58am bst 27 sep 2011. detectives are investigating whether the article, published in julys edition of the watchtower, is in breach of britains religious hatred laws.. the article, published in the magazine which is distributed by jehovah's witnesses across the globe, reportedly warned followers to avoid "false teachers" which it condemned as being "mentally diseased".. "suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with someone who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease," part of the article stated.. "you would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning.

  well, apostates are 'mentally diseased', and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings.".

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  "Suppose that a doctor told you to avoid contact with a cult who is infected with a contagious, deadly disease," part of the article stated.

  "You would know what the doctor means, and you would strictly heed his warning. Well, cults who teach shunning, refusing blood transfusions and secretly hide paedophiles are 'mentally unfit to run an organisation let alone one that enjoys a tax exempt status', and they seek to infect others with their damaging teachings."

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  For Immediate Release JW-MEDIA.org post response to child sex abuse verdict

  by BlindersOff1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.jw-media.org/usa/20120620.htm .

  just plain old corporate denial.

  let the games begin.. .

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  Cowards. Disgusting cult. Evil beyond belief. They are sub-human in how they ruin children's lives and protect child abusers.

  Jehovah's Winesses are now well known for being a paedophile paradise. Kingdom Halls are paedophile pick-up zones. The WBTS protects child abusers, allows them access to children at their places of worship and on the door to door ministry and expects children to call offenders their brothers and sisters.

  Sick cult run by depraved evil men.

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  What to do with our money (estate) when we die?

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my husband just gave me the km for june.

  i thought the question box was interesting.

  it asks the question "what should be kept in mind if we want some or all of our assets to go to jehovah's organization upon our death?".

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  Give it to the RSPCA or equivalent. Most other charities are absolute thieves, most money never makes it to Africa. THe last thing Africa needs is to feed those fools who keep haing way too many kids.

  mP, nothing like a sweeping generalisation to get your point across? You still on the writing committee or is slandering most registered charities and insulting those hungry in Africa just a personal view? You wouldn't by chance get on better with animals than people would you?

  Back on topic - for the WBTS to suggest that JW's choices are between leaving some or all of the estate to them is very devious. This will guilt trip some older ones into changing their will. Very sad

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  JW Study - OUT!!

  by uk_ex_jw in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a few months ago, i posted about a study who was getting baptised this summer at the upcoming dc.. we discussed a few things on fb.

  i showed him evidence that the watchtower does not have the truth.

  the last i heard was that he had gone to the elder's with the information i had given him.. i haven't heard from him since.. however, yesterday he contacted a jw, elder's son on fb.

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  well done - great work! I also think how he referenced you in a negative way is him trying to justify his own path by shifting the blame.
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  Is the Borg "really" guilty in the Candace Conti case ???

  by RubaDub in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  full disclosure:.

  i am an active (2-4 hrs/month) 3rd generation jw hovering under the radar.

  been posting here for 10 years.

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  This has probably been the single most thought provoking thread I've read in a long time. So many valid, perceptive views and personal experiences that get to some of the root causes.

  Proposed new policy (draft) not really in Watchtower speak or with any legal background.

  Letter to be read to every congregation and re-read on an annual basis. As this is new policy Elders should contact each member of the congregation who attends at least some meetings each year to ensure they are aware of this. A register must be signed by every member to say they have seen and understood the new policy.

  1) Any cases of child abuse should be reported immediately and directly to the proper authorities (i.e. police or social services). This applies to new cases or any previously unreported cases.

  2) Local elders may be informed if you have permission from the investigating authorities for practical reasons only such as arranging transportation to meetings.

  3) Should any elder be informed of any child abuse where the proper authorities have not yet been advised such as during a confession, they should strongly recommend the proper authorities (i.e. police) are told immediately. The elder/s should also contact the police to ensure a report has been made and if not then file one.

  4) Elders are not qualified to investigate claims of child abuse, provide judgement on claims, offer professional counselling, legal advice, financial advise, medical advise or dispense drugs to victims.

  5) As part of an initial exercise to ensure the congregations are clean, any current members of the congregation will be asked to sign a disclosure that they have never been convicted of child abuse. As a precaution the child offenders register will be checked for all current members and thereafter any new members should be checked.

  6) Anyone with a conviction for child abuse at any time in the past will not be allowed to serve in any position of responsibility or will be removed from a position of responsibility immediately. They will be asked to comply with a voluntary request to never attend meetings. Instead they can dial in using a conference call to listen to meetings and receive all the literature but just not associate in any way (either in person, via telephone or internet with any members) or undertake any form of preaching. If they exercise their rights of freedom and do attend, then an elder should sit on either side of the offender and they should remain with the offender at all times until they leave the premises.

  7) Anyone being investigated for abuse will be asked not to attend meetings until the charges are dropped.

  8) Anyone who has confessed to being guilty of child abuse but for some reason charges were dropped by the authorities (i.e. due to technicality or victims could not be located) should be treated as one convicted.

  9) The offenders register will be checked regularly to ensure that no offenders live in the area. If they do then the congregation will be made aware of these so they can take measures not to call on them and be aware if they are approched by an offender in a nearby street. No minors should be allowed on the door-to door ministry without being accompanied at all times by a responsible adult.

  10) The WBTS does not guarantee that the congregations will be free of child abuse but will work with the elders and local authorities to ensure any known offenders will be clearly watched at any meeting and the congregation will be made aware of any conviction with a simple announcement.

  11) The WBTS apologies unreservedly to victims of abuse within the congragtions or where the offender was associated with the congregation as a result of our policies or actions by elders. Any shunning that has taken place as a result of this will be immediately removed and please contact us directly for compensation related to the abuse and possible shunning.

  12) This policy and any updates will be printed in the magazines on an annual basis and available under heading "policies" on the website.

  just my thoughts

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  Candace Conti video on YouTube - let's send it viral!

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i've uploaded a video that discusses the dramatic jury verdict regarding the abuse suffered by candace conti, of which you are all aware.

  if you're not yet familiar with the story for any reason, please check out my blog article on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/general-information/the-watchtower-punished-society-loses-legal-battle-over-child-abuse-case.

  john hoyle suggested i get a youtube video out fairly quickly so that we can spread the message more effectively online.

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  every type of media you produce will help. Who know's how many JW's this will reach in weeks, months and years to come who are unhappy with the WBTS's broken policies. The music is a nice touch.

  As the story unfolds in the coming weeks and Candace does TV interviews, is it possible to splice these in? I'm sure hearing her speak will add even more to it's power although I understand this may be technically challenging.

  great job

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  it is in the EL MUNDO the spanish news

  by havenofear in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.elmundo.es/america/2012/06/19/estados_unidos/1340092760.html.

  hi, not a new poster, lost my password and could not recover it.

  so, got this nice new username..

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  havenofear thanks for posting this. I'm sure there will be many Spanish speaking JW's who receive this link in the near future.

  Welcome to JWN!

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  My JW mum is in hospital

  by nugget in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my poor mum fell over on sunday and broke her hip.

  she was taken to hospital and yesterday had an operation to place a pin in the joint.

  this was obviously a worrying time for all concerned and my dad let us all know what was going on.

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  Hope she gets some rest and peace and recovers well. Don't let this upset you too much. Maybe you might mention to your sister that she should be profoundly embarrassed about the Candace Conti story.

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  its in the Guardian online UK

  by not bitter in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10292660.

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  Thanks - the Guardian broke the UN story and is another major trusted site in the UK.

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  Can Satan enter your mind if you stop thinking?

  by God_Delusion in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as a kid, my brilliant pioneering mother told me that if i stopped thinking, satan and his demons could enter my mind.

  am i the only one that was told this useless drivel?

  is there a watchtower article that sort of backs this up?.

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  I heard it lots of times about meditation - if you empty your mind then the spirits will get in. I knew plenty of JW's who must have emptied their bowels and let the spirits in as I heard them talking out of their asses.

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