freeflyingfaerie

Joined

• started 42 topics
• posted 557 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by freeflyingfaerie

• 
  127

  Introducing Mrs Cedars...

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just thought you should know that mrs cedars has finally taken the plunge and joined the forum.

  she was able to log on for the first time yesterday.. though we both "awakened" at different stages, mrs cedars was very supportive and non-judgmental when i first began exploring my beliefs from a critical standpoint.

  she is currently in the process of reading crisis of conscience and aquainting herself with some of the facts of witness history that were hitherto unknown.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  freeflyingfaerie

  Hello and Welcome MrsCedars~

  You two do have great matching avatars! Adorable.

  ~Faerie
• 
  47

  Was Any Part of it Real?

  by Big Tex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sort of following a stream of consciousness so bear with me.

  i was flipping around on tv and ran across an old movie.

  a couple had a one night stand and when she realized he had just used her she was shocked and told him he had said he loved her.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  freeflyingfaerie

  I think a relationship with that kind of person isn't real if it was based on a lie, a false front.

  I think I see what you mean. For me, the deciding factor on whether or not the person is a real friend is based largely on intuition...is this a 'false front', or have they let their guard down? I would like to think I remember having a few genuine friends that I could trust, have candid discussions with, and it was heart to heart. Maybe I was being naive, but I feel that the close friends I had were being the best friends they could be..considering that we were all being brainwashed together.

  I can say my feelings and behaviors were real, but not so much for the other person.

  Maybe they feel the same about you? Is it being honest to think you were more sincere than any of them? It is open to speculation, I guess.

  The relationship itself was built on a flawed premise so in the end you let it go and move on.

  Yes, built on a flawed premise, but it doesn't erase that something real could've evolved from it still. And yes I agree, in the end you let go and move on....that's where I felt much heartache...but had to be true to myself.
• 
  7

  Young nonJW girl's insight into JWs

  by tornapart in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  found this very interesting.

  she hasn't met jws and made this video based on what she had seen from ex jws videos.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvw9otqqe_k&feature.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  freeflyingfaerie

  I love her already! What an intelligent, insightful and caring girl. It was a pleasure taking a virtual walk with her around her back yard and hearing her thoughts.
• 
  47

  Was Any Part of it Real?

  by Big Tex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sort of following a stream of consciousness so bear with me.

  i was flipping around on tv and ran across an old movie.

  a couple had a one night stand and when she realized he had just used her she was shocked and told him he had said he loved her.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  freeflyingfaerie

  But, the sake of discussion, you discover that that person you trusted and believed in was nothing but a facade? What if you discovered that they were lying not only to you but to themselves? And everything they were, everything they did was built upon a false facade?

  It is one thing if they knowingly created a facade. It is another if their belief system is a facade, they unwittingly playing the pawn. I call a friend someone that is sincere, genuine...even if misguided. If this person knows they are a fake...not a friend. I believe that my close friends while in the religion were just that, friends...even if misquided like myself at the time.

  And so I say again, it was never real. I was real. What I felt was real. The love and devotion were real. But at the end of the day you realize you can only control yourself and the only person you can really understand and believe in is yourself.

  I have to agree with the bolded part, ultimately. But, idealist that I am, I do think that others have it in them to be a real friend, rare as it may be.
• 
  47

  Was Any Part of it Real?

  by Big Tex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sort of following a stream of consciousness so bear with me.

  i was flipping around on tv and ran across an old movie.

  a couple had a one night stand and when she realized he had just used her she was shocked and told him he had said he loved her.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  freeflyingfaerie

  It was real. close friends/family together, all under the influence. But it was still real. Real experiences, real feelings while believing the same lie.

  Then when we woke up and they stayed asleep, they had to cut us off and dissolve any connection. Those that still believe in the religion choose it above any real friendship they had with those that leave. But they were friends. I did have real friends and real family that I really love.

  What isn't real is the lies we were all told. Lots and lots of sincere people, many who genuinely love others....all while living under the heavy hand of the watchtower.

  I feel where you are coming from. I questioned everything once my eyes began to open after leaving...everything. Today I can say I believe that the sky is still blue and that cats and dogs have four legs...and a few other things...
• 
  5

  Sky News: Mormons Reject 'Cult' Label Ahead of US Polls

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of you who are interested in how a major uk news channel covers cults, see this politically-flavoured report on mormonism..... http://news.sky.com/story/958170/mormons-reject-cult-label-ahead-of-us-polls.

  when you watch the report, the parallels with jehovah's witnesses (even in this brief film) are intriguing, right down to the young clean-cut lad delivering a talk at his local congregation, and the cheesy video promoting the church's past, which evokes memories of the "faith in action" dvd series featuring the young charles taze russell.. i also find it intriguing that the racist history of the mormon church is highlighted by one commentator.

  as i explained in a recent article (below), the history of jehovah's witnesses is similarly besmirched by the dark clouds of racism.... http://insidethewatchtower.com/history/a-brief-history-of-racism-in-watchtower-publications/.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  freeflyingfaerie

  Thanks for sharing that youtube! LOL!!!
• 
  7

  What did you eat today?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ate mongolian beef, brown rice, kashi cinnamon harvest cereal, almonds, frozen cherries, bananas.. .

  sometimes i have trouble deciding what i want to eat.

  please share with me what you ate today, maybe you can help me decide what to eat in the future.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  freeflyingfaerie

  In all seriousness...

  perhaps look at taking an Ayurvedic approach. The idea is to discover what your natural consitution is, and then gravitate toward fresh, whole foods that will support your body. If you take some time, you will find recipes and foods to keep in your home

  ...I was laughing with you, not at you
• 
  7

  What did you eat today?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ate mongolian beef, brown rice, kashi cinnamon harvest cereal, almonds, frozen cherries, bananas.. .

  sometimes i have trouble deciding what i want to eat.

  please share with me what you ate today, maybe you can help me decide what to eat in the future.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  freeflyingfaerie

  I ate Mongolian Beef, Brown Rice, Kashi Cinnamon Harvest Cereal, Almonds, Frozen Cherries, Bananas.

  Sometimes I have trouble deciding what I want to eat. Please share with me what you ate today, maybe you can help me decide what to eat in the future.

  LOL!
• 
  4

  A warm and fuzzy call from my brother..

  by freeflyingfaerie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...as a newly appointed elder.

  it was our first real conversation in 3 1/2 years.. coincidence?

  i don't think so.. it was a 'sheparding call' on his very own sister.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  freeflyingfaerie

  Billy, that is brilliant...you put it so well. Love it

  I will absolutely use that idea...absolutely, that's how I feel
• 
  4

  A warm and fuzzy call from my brother..

  by freeflyingfaerie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...as a newly appointed elder.

  it was our first real conversation in 3 1/2 years.. coincidence?

  i don't think so.. it was a 'sheparding call' on his very own sister.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  freeflyingfaerie

  Thanks exwhyzee~

  I did explain to him that I find it sad that there is a division between us. And that if I had known at age thirteen, as a child, that should I decide as an adult to believe differently I would lose all family and friends over it....i would not have gotton baptized. I didn't realize as a child the gravity of that choice. And on becoming an adult, I was already so immersed in it, was so 'faithful', that my entire life was then revolving around the religion.

  He seemed to listen.

  Maybe backing off of controversal topics is wise...but then again, I vividly remember others helping, shaking me to my senses by bringing things up directly, things I didn't want to hear..but couldn't ignore forever. There's a delicate balance between exposing lies to them and not setting them off into defense mode. I have to think, though that they are absorbing some of what I say. I sure absorbed things people told me about the religion along the way, and when I was finally ready, I actively did something about it. The challenge is to keep calm, not be unneccesarily derrogatory and sarcastic, and repeatedly reassure them of my love and respect despite our differences.