Franklin you have a PM
SIAM
this has been asked before, however i thought it may be good for newer members of the board to read some of our reasons on how we decided to exit the jw cult and why we decided to do it the way we did.. first off - i have been faded for almost 8 years.
essentially i decided to fade into inactivity and not da because i have elderly jw parents who would shun me if i did get dfed or daed myself.
also- i like keeping open the possibilities that some of my many jw relatives may in time start doubting and have questions and reach out to me in my inactive state.
Franklin you have a PM
SIAM
you could also hold back from scrutinizing.
your beliefs out of fear that doing so would.
display a lack of faith.
I think that they are trying to make themselves look like less of a cult. Note that this type of advice is never found in the study editions?
The other option is that they are so far gone that just can't see the hypocrisy.
without specifics being mentioned as to what it is......(to avoid tipping off certain lurkers).. how many people know about the upcoming summer long campaign?
please use this thread to confirm receipt of your campaign invitation.
take care.
Just checking in. Have there been any "experiences"?
SIAM
jehovah's witnesses hierarchy charged.
immediate press release: 26 july 2011. link to this press release: http://wp.me/p1g1hc-4o.
worldwide church hierarchy charged with child abuse.
This has the potential to be a BFD.
I don't think I have ever commented on this for fear of outing myself but what the heck.
As an elder I once had to deal with the us legal dept on a molestation case. In talking with the lawyer at the branch, he warned me to never send anything in writing to headquarters but instead only to use the telephone. When I jokingly asked him "why because you can't supeona a conversation?" he chuckled and said, " yes something like that". At that moment I knew these people were crooks, only interested in protecting their assets.
The criminal went to prison and I mentally left the Watchtower prison.
SIAM
growing up, this is something that my other always told me.
i've had several conversations with older sisters who have said that if they could do things over, they wouldn't have had children.
other couples my own age are horrified at the thought of raising children in "this system".
Having kids in this old system was the best decision we ever made. There is nothing better than watching your kids grow and learn. It is something special to have one of your little ones fall asleep in your lap. Don't get me wrong. It is way harder than I thought it would be, but it is more rewarding also. I look forward to watching my kids grow and start to have families of their own.
I feel tremendous sadness when I see childless couples who have deferred families for the sake of the Kingdom. They will grow old and look back with regret that they can't express openly as long as they are stuck in the organization. If you are thinking about having kids and are stable financially, and emotionally with a great mate, I can't recommend it more.
SIAM
imagine boarding a bus with your family for a long anticipated vacation.
the destination is a place that is promised to be beautiful warm and sunny.
as you are boarding the bus you are given a ticket stub with several paragraph's of fine print.
LOL I didn't mean it to be that creepy. I guess reality is the scariest thing after all. See what happens to my mind after 3 gin and tonics?
imagine boarding a bus with your family for a long anticipated vacation.
the destination is a place that is promised to be beautiful warm and sunny.
as you are boarding the bus you are given a ticket stub with several paragraph's of fine print.
@serenity. That is exactly how I feel being trapped on the bus myself. Just like a twilight zone episode.
SIAM
imagine boarding a bus with your family for a long anticipated vacation.
the destination is a place that is promised to be beautiful warm and sunny.
as you are boarding the bus you are given a ticket stub with several paragraph's of fine print.
Thanks for the feedback. Please share with anyone you want.
SIAM
imagine boarding a bus with your family for a long anticipated vacation.
the destination is a place that is promised to be beautiful warm and sunny.
as you are boarding the bus you are given a ticket stub with several paragraph's of fine print.
Imagine boarding a bus with your family for a long anticipated vacation. The destination is a place that is promised to be beautiful warm and sunny. As you are boarding the bus you are given a ticket stub with several paragraph's of fine print. Thinking nothing of it you stuff it in your pocket and find your seat on the bus. As you sit down you notice that all of the windows on the bus have been blacked out. The inside is lit with rows of florescent lights.
The bus is full of friendly excited people who are looking forward to the same vacation. There is a palpable sense of joy as the bus pulls away from the curb. Many people on the bus are pleasant people with their children, who are along for the holiday. Your wife and children join in an impromptu sing along to pass the time.
Reaching into the seat back pocket you find the on board magazine that the Corporation publishes. It contains articles about the resort and promotional material about the corporation.
The bus stops several times and picks up a few more excited families who are on their way to the vacation resort. Dinner time approaches and the crew delivers the meal consisting of a single slice of toasted white bread. Unusual you think, but you eat it anyway thinking of the buffet that awaits you at the resort.
Minutes stretch into hours and day turns to night. The bus continues on. You begin to hear mumblings from some of the passengers as to how long the bus had been on the road without a stop. The Driver ignores the mumblings and presses his way into the darkness.
Daylight breaks and it becomes clear that the bus is continuing to motor along with no sign of stopping. The drivers have changed sometime during the night. The passengers mood has changed from exuberance and anticipation to somberness and fearfulness. The crew delivers the morning meal which is again a slice of dry white toast.
You try to scratch against the window to see where you are, to no avail. You become alarmed because now this “short trip” has now become very long. Reaching into your pocket you find your ticket stub which has the following printed on it in very small type.
Welcome to Paradise Vacation Tours.
We are glad that you have chosen Paradise Vacation Tours as your transport to your unforgettable vacation. Paradise Vacation Tours is the only Tour company of its kind. You will not receive a better experience anywhere else. You will notice that the windows are darkened for your protection and security.
By purchasing your tick et and boarding the bus you hereby agree to the following terms:
No one is permitted to leave the bus at any time for any reason. The only way you will be permitted off of the bus is if the crew removes you for disorderly conduct which includes any of the following:
Asking the bus driver questions about the route
Questioning the length of the trip
Speaking negatively to your fellow passengers
Failing to speak positively about the Paradise Vacation Corporation or Staff
Reading any other material other than is provided by the Corporation.
Refusing the on board meals specially prepared for this trip
Asking to leave the bus.
We reserve the right to change course at any time for any reason. Due to our state of the art Navigation system the trip is for an unknown duration.
We appreciate your patience and consideration. Thank you for choosing the most trustworthy transportation company in the world.
Alarmed now, you lean over and whisper to the elderly man sitting next to you. “How long do you think the trip will be?”
The old man looks at you with sadness in his eyes and whispers back, “ I boarded the bus in 1974”. “I thought it was a short trip to the resort and have been here ever since. I am am afraid to leave because I wonder where will I go once I get off of the bus? for all I know we might be in the desert or in an inner city full of crime. Plus, Paradise R esort has got to be close I keep thinking. I mean, I am at least a million miles closer than I was then”
Shocked, you turn to the window that is blacked out and look out at the world that you know is out there but hidden. The bus rolls on with yet another change of driver. The corporate magazine sneers at you as it displays a picture of a happy family in a mountain meadow.
The bus continues to roll on into the distance. The years pass and you become the old man.-
Questions
If you were in this situation, would you decide to leave the bus? Even if your family decided to stay on board?
How long would you ride before you decided to get off of the bus?
What does the fine print say about the corporation?
What type of corporation would advertise a trip to paradise and not deliver?
Many of us now realize that we are trapped within the “bus” of the Watchtower organization. We know that the promises that we have been given in the pages of the Watchtower and Awake have not materialized. We watch year after year, and mile after mile pass with no sign that we are close to our destination or that the drivers or leaders have any clue where they are going. The "spiritual food" that is served at each meeting and assembly is the same exact stuff that had been presented for years. It is as dry as white toast.
There are many that we see among our local congregations who have been patiently waiting for many years for something that will not happen. Just like the old man on the bus they feel that they have so much time invested that it makes no sense to leave at this point in time. They say "where else will I go?"
The actions of the Society have proved the “Corporation” to be corrupt. We are threatened with punishment if we question the direction of the Society. Simply put we are trapped. The bus will never stop. The passengers will change as time progresses but the destination to nowhere remains the same.
Which is better, to put faith in an organization that has NEVER delivered on its promises, or to take that chance and live your life in a moral way outside of the “protection” of the organization?
The Watchtower organization wants you to stay on the bus. They need your obedience, your effort, your time, and your life.
hello folks,.
i feel like a fish who has been struggling for oxygen so long he's almost dead.
time to grow some legs and get the hell out of hell.
Thanks for posting DTW!
Welcome you will find a lot of people who share your sentiments about the GB.
SIAM