Lost, and Ten Years,
Please feel free to share it with any that you wish. (preach the word) LOL
SIAM
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Attention Lurkers- Consider the effectiveness of your lifesaving work
by stuckinamovement inhypothetical scenario.
you are a city manager in a major metropolitan city with a population of 3,000,000.. .
if the governing body was truly convinced themselves of the impending disaster and the fact that the end is imminent would they not focus their efforts in spreading the message through effective means such as telephone, television, internet, social networks etc?
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Attention Lurkers- Consider the effectiveness of your lifesaving work
by stuckinamovement inhypothetical scenario.
you are a city manager in a major metropolitan city with a population of 3,000,000.. .
if the governing body was truly convinced themselves of the impending disaster and the fact that the end is imminent would they not focus their efforts in spreading the message through effective means such as telephone, television, internet, social networks etc?
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stuckinamovement
Hypothetical Scenario
You are a City Manager in a major metropolitan city with a population of 3,000,000.
One day when you come into work at 9:00 AM you are horrified to receive an anonymous message that a group of terrorists have put a poison into the City’s water supply located 10 miles from the City limits.
This chemical is extremely dangerous and will result in a painful death for any one that drinks the water. However rather than panic, you take some time and order your water treatment lab to test and confirm or deny that the system has been compromised. The tests come back positive. The tests show that you have somewhere between 6 and 20 hours before the poison reaches the City.
Immediately you realize that you have to warn the entire population of your City before it is too late and there are massive losses.
How do you inform the public? At your disposal are the entire City Staff numbering 3,000 which gives you a ratio of 1:1,000 people in the city. You also have the following ways of reaching people.
- Radio
- Television
- Telephone
- Internet
- Billboards
- Postal Service
- Door to Door
- PA systems on the Police Cars
Question: In view of the seriousness of the situation and the amount of time remaining, which methods of informing people will you use?
Your message is simple and to the point, “The water system has been compromised, to avoid death, please do not drink the water.”
A competent City Manager would assess the situation, and immediately mobilize his people. He would use all available methods of communication focusing on the ones that would be most effective with the goal of reaching as many as possible. He does this for the following reasons:
- He has a moral obligation to warn people to protect them from certain death
- He has knowledge that there is limited time to warn them
What would you think of a City Manager who had this knowledge of an imminent disaster and instead of focusing his efforts on broadcasting the warning through the television, internet, telephone etc. he instructs his 3,000 employees to each go to 1,000 doors to warn people? Even though he knows that most people are not at their houses but are instead at work, or shopping, or school? If each employee was able to knock on a door every 7 minutes, it will take him 116 hours to complete this door to door assignment once.
As Witnesses we are taught that we have life saving information and that the end is going to come at anytime. Adjectives that are used frequently when describing the nearness of the worldwide disaster are “imminent”, “shortly”, “soon”. The only hope that people have for salvation is through heeding the warnings that are given. We have divine knowledge that must reach the ears of everyone on earth.
If the Governing Body was truly convinced themselves of the impending disaster and the fact that the end is “imminent” would they not focus their efforts in spreading the message through effective means such as telephone, television, internet, social networks etc? Instead direction is given that the primary method of spreading the warning message is through calling at empty houses repeatedly.
The Apostles and Christians in the first century used the most effective methods possible to preach, including speaking in the synagogues, in the marketplaces, and in people’s homes. They also wrote letters and forwarded the letters on to others. That was the extent of technology at that time, and they used it effectively. However technology has dramatically changed in the last 100 years let alone the last 2000 years. Why is it that as Witnesses we are instructed not to use the Internet, or email, or social networks or the television to preach the warning? Telephone or letter witnessing is allowed but only as a small part of our ministry.
It is conservative to estimate that around 50% of the ones baptized are children who have been raised in the truth and do not require preaching to from door to door. It now takes almost 11,000 man hours of the house to house ministry to get an interested person to baptism. If “Joe” publisher went house to house on average 10 hrs a month, it will take him 91 years to get a student to the point of being baptized. Statistically it is impossible since we live to 70- or 80 years old.
This highlights how ineffective door to door is as a means of warning people about an impending disaster. Despite these odds why do we continue to maintain that the house to house ministry is the most effective method? The data does not support the claim.
Each Witness records his or her time and obediently submits it to the Branch every month. It is clear that the effort is what is valued, and not the results. An analogy that might be made is by imagining that you work at a gravel plant. Your job is to make gravel and the way that you do it and have always done it is by smashing rocks with a hammer. Even though machines have been invented to efficiently crush gravel by the ton at a high production rate, your boss tells you, “Ignore that machine”, “Keep using that hammer, it is the best way to make gravel.” Each time you go in service and call at an empty house, remeber you are crushing rocks with a hammer.
My conclusion with these things in mind is I don’t feel that the Governing Body themselves are convinced that the end is imminent and that we as Witnesses carry a life saving message. If they were convinced that time is reduced and that people’s lives are on the line they would give direction that other methods be used to actually reach people with the warning.
My best wishes to you and your's this New Year!
SIAM
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BOE LTR Dec 26, 2010 "Increased Activity April 2011"....Transcript....
by yknot inin an effort to increase the praise and honor to jehovah and jesus christ at the time of the memorial, the governing body has arranged for a special period of increased activity during april 2011.
you will be pleased to learn that during april 2011, publishers who wish to serve as auxiliary pioneers may indicate on the application whether they will be working toward a 30-hour or 50-hour requirement for the month.
this is a special arrangement for the month of april 2011 only.
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stuckinamovement
It is a desperate attempt to energize a sleepy flock. There will be a special memorial campaign and they probably need all hands on deck to get the invites out.
The way it will be announced is quite interesting.
SIAM
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Swiss Branch closing down
by InquiryMan inthis newspaper article published in a capital news paper reports this including an interview with a watchtower spokesman.. it seems that less than half of the bethelites will be transferred to the german branch in selters that will supervise the work in switzerland from 2011.also, it seems that the branch offices in austria and luxembourg will undergo the same transition.
the remaining bethelites will stay on in switzerland, some will go on as full time pioneers.. .
http://www.bernerzeitung.ch/region/thun/klosterbetrieb--der-zeugen-jehovas-zieht-aus-thun-weg/story/21590801.
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stuckinamovement
maybe the WTS couldn't meet the strict neutrality standards of Switzerland?? LOL
Seriously, too bad they quietly close up shop. Knowledge of the "Kingdom's" increase decrease is powerful to those who feel that growth and expansion is a sign of God's blessing.
SIAM
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My Experiences
by Former ini'm a former ministerial servant and bethelite that left about six months ago.
my stay at bethel ended one year ago.
for those interested, this is my story:.
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stuckinamovement
Welcome to the Board. connecting with others in a similar situation can be encouraging. I am glad that you woke up and am sorry that your family is treating you and your sister so poorly. Hang in there
SIAM
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Attention Born in Lurkers
by stuckinamovement indo you feel that something has changed within god's organization?
have you noticed that in the past several years there has been a more authoritarian spirit displayed in the publications and from the platform?
i am in the beginning stages of a fade away and wanted to express my thoughts.
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Btt
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And now, a Rap by sd-7..."I Watch the Watchtower Fall"
by sd-7 inas i watch the watchtower fall.
nothing left to govern my body.
i fall into the winter.
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stuckinamovement
I can just see the video in my mind...
The video begins with a man in a suit washing a window, Flash to a shot of his miserable life faking happiness going door to door, flashes of light....he gets angry and smashes the window
The man in the suit with a bible in his hand on stage begins to sing to the people in a huge auditorium
a shot of the kids in the audience chained to their seats with tape on their mouths while their parents look rapturously at the stage and then realizing what is being said... a mass exit out of the nicely appointed auditiorium
The man in the suit walking down a busy street wearing a sandwich board sign..."jehovahs witnesses are a snare and a racket"
The governing body in their meeting room smoking cigars drinking scotch, looking at a picture of paradise for the magazine and contemplating the magazine cover.....All members played by steve buscemi. The scarlet beast lays in the corner of the room with two sisters petting it.
The rapping man in the suit driving a sound car through a suburban neighborhood while witnesses going door to door run in front of the car holding their ears, with terrified looks on their faces
The chorus
spiritual hotties wearing skirts above the knee shaking it
a pimped out 1998 4 door honda accord with hydraulics
bling bling - a big gold watchtower symbol hanging from your neck
SD-7 you have a gift.
SIAM
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2010 Partakers number is out!!!
by Hairyhegoat inhey here we go!!!.
they will need to buy some more crackers and cheap wine for next year now.
what are the borg going to concocked now to cover there ass with the number of morons going up again at the memorial 2010 ?.
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stuckinamovement
Does anyone have the capability of creating a graph comparing the rate of publisher growth in the org to the number of partakers? One thing some people will say in response is "as more people come into the truth there of course are a higher percentage of people who will partake.
The graph showing how the increase of partakers far outpaced the increase of pubs should stifle that lame argument.
Thanks
SIAM
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I listened to the meeting over the phone with my grandmother. This religion is nuts!!
by miseryloveselders inmy grandmother has been a little ill, and had to be put in a facility temporarily.
she should be getting out sometime next week.
i'm not particularly close with her, and that probably has a lot to do with my father.
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LOL
Misery, you have got a gift for painting a picture with your words.
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Attention Born in Lurkers
by stuckinamovement indo you feel that something has changed within god's organization?
have you noticed that in the past several years there has been a more authoritarian spirit displayed in the publications and from the platform?
i am in the beginning stages of a fade away and wanted to express my thoughts.
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stuckinamovement
Danabug, thanks for the help in responding to TimeBandit.
Thanks to all for your responses and feedback. As mentioned I am an active witness who is trying to act on what my conscience tells me to do. The fact that I am a born in makes it tremendously hard because everything that I know and everyone who I know is closely linked to the organization. If you are a lurker, expect a great deal of inner turmoil as you review the foundations of your existence. You might lose sleep, you will be agitated, but after those things pass you will have a measure of peace because you examined the scriptures to see whether or not the things that you have been taught are true.
Some other thoughts....
Jehovah or Jesus never said in the Bible that they would create or use an earthly organization. In fact Jesus said that where two or three were gathered in his name he would be with them. The WTBS has assumed the role of God's earthly organization by self assertion. It is true that Jehovah is a God of order, but there is no mention in the scriptures of a worldwide organization.
Unity of thought is not required in the scriptures. Love for God, his Son, and your neighbor is required.
It is sad that good people have to bury their sincere questions, honest feelings and thoughts to avoid being prosecuted by the Organization. The fact that you cannot question your own beliefs openly should say something to you about "God's organization". Jehovah never intended his servants to be cowed by fear of man or a manufactured religious corporation. He wants us to serve him with love and freedom. Remember, we should serve God alone, not an organization of man.
Take Care,
SIAM