Posts by stuckinamovement

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Strollers at DC

by InquiryMan in

if i understand it correctly, strollers are not allowed at us conventions.. in sweden, a letter was written to the congregation, introducing this new rule.

however, quite a few families wrote letters to the society,.

asking if they wanted families with children to attend the assemblies or not... it was stated that they would not go unless strollers were allowed.. the society pulled back, allowing strollers in designated areas.. in norway, they didn t even bother to introduce the rule in the first place... .

stuckinamovement

This is a bs rule. Some venues have designated spaces for strollers at the back of the auditorium. As long as the stroller doesn't block any exit path or exit itself it should be ok. This is a sore subject with me. I have been to a boat show in the same arena as the convention. I had a delightful time rolling my kid around in the stroller. No problems then. I know some children's groups like the wiggles have played the venue, and I saw a picture of the many people with kids and strollers then.

The reason this makes me angry is the dillholes in Brooklyn making these stupid ass rules have never had to cart a cooler, a bookbag' and a three year old 1/2 mile from the parking garage to the center. Pricks.

Also there is the new rule that all delegates should come to the hotel to check in wearing their meeting clothes and badges. So this means that I have to get off work on Thursday, go home put a suit on make sure my wife and kid are dressed and then drive 4 hours to the convention city hotel. Just to check in! Again it is a classic case of dipshits who have never had to work secularly or have kids to take care of, making stupid ass rules. They sure are following Jesus example of making the "load light".

Can you tell this makes me mad?

Siam

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Candace Conti video on YouTube - let's send it viral!

by cedars in

i've uploaded a video that discusses the dramatic jury verdict regarding the abuse suffered by candace conti, of which you are all aware.

if you're not yet familiar with the story for any reason, please check out my blog article on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/general-information/the-watchtower-punished-society-loses-legal-battle-over-child-abuse-case.

john hoyle suggested i get a youtube video out fairly quickly so that we can spread the message more effectively online.

stuckinamovement

Thanks Cedars, Nugget and Cantleave. The video gave me chills it was so good. Nugget did an amazing job of narrating it. Bravo

Siam

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Those who WERE or ARE Elders (Re: Molestation Coverup)

by dontplaceliterature in

i'd like to hear from those who are currently elders or were formerly elders on your honest feelings about the charges brought against the society and their general policy in handling these matters.

do you think that the society handles child abuse accusations fairly?

or, do you think their policy is abusive?

stuckinamovement

@Sulla, They did direct us not to report the matter to the police but to instead leave it up to the mother.

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Those who WERE or ARE Elders (Re: Molestation Coverup)

by dontplaceliterature in

i'd like to hear from those who are currently elders or were formerly elders on your honest feelings about the charges brought against the society and their general policy in handling these matters.

do you think that the society handles child abuse accusations fairly?

or, do you think their policy is abusive?

stuckinamovement

dontplaceliterature you have a pm

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Those who WERE or ARE Elders (Re: Molestation Coverup)

by dontplaceliterature in

i'd like to hear from those who are currently elders or were formerly elders on your honest feelings about the charges brought against the society and their general policy in handling these matters.

do you think that the society handles child abuse accusations fairly?

or, do you think their policy is abusive?

stuckinamovement

The Conti judgement against them has been a long time coming. A few years back I had to handle a molestation case. The way the society handled it was appalling. They discouraged us as Elders from reporting it to the authorities and told us to neither encourage or discourage the mother of the victim to report it. (Fortunately she did)

All communication had to be done over the phone, they specifically asked us not to send any written correspondence to them about it. After the pedophile got out of prision the branch gave us specific instructions not to warn the congregation about him, and instructions that we were not to stop him from participating in the door to door work. (fortunately everyone pretty much knew the story)

The elder book gives explicit instructions that if you find out about abuse allegations your first step is to call the legal department. The fact that they want to be involved in it is for the sole purpose of covering it up and obstructing justice.

SIAM

18

Momentum Builds

by stuckinamovement in

jw
friends

if possible it would be great to send a copy of the new "shepherding" book and the recent confidentiality letter to contacts in the media.

the society will try to paint this as an isolated case and that it is in no way related to their policies.

the documents mentioned above show that this is not the case.. what is next?

stuckinamovement

Mind blown,

One of the reasons I resigned as an elder is because of this issue. I will never forget talking to the legal Dept about an abuse case and getting the instruction to neither report it, or encourage or discourage the mother of the victim to report it. The lawyer back there in Brooklyn even told me "SIAM always use the phone, never send written correspondence about the case to headquarters." I asked "why because you can't subpeona a telephone conversation?" the answer from Brother lawyer was .."....Um, (chuckle...) something like that"

These people are crooks. Their only interest is in protecting their reputation as God's sole channel on earth and they will do anything to keep that illusion in place.

SIAM

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Momentum Builds

by stuckinamovement in

jw
friends

if possible it would be great to send a copy of the new "shepherding" book and the recent confidentiality letter to contacts in the media.

the society will try to paint this as an isolated case and that it is in no way related to their policies.

the documents mentioned above show that this is not the case.. what is next?

stuckinamovement

This is the perfect time to pull out the letter from the Branch to the Florida BOE about the murderer who confessed. The question begs to be asked. " what other crimes are Jehovah's Witnesses hiding?"

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Momentum Builds

by stuckinamovement in

jw
friends

if possible it would be great to send a copy of the new "shepherding" book and the recent confidentiality letter to contacts in the media.

the society will try to paint this as an isolated case and that it is in no way related to their policies.

the documents mentioned above show that this is not the case.. what is next?

stuckinamovement

If possible it would be great to send a copy of the new "shepherding" book and the recent confidentiality letter to contacts in the media. The Society will try to paint this as an isolated case and that it is in no way related to their policies. The documents mentioned above show that this is not the case.

What is next? More victims coming forward? Press on the toxic spill at the farm? An article on the sheer hypocrisy of the organization and how they require child molesters to go door to door?

SIAM

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Its been great....

by stuckinamovement in

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friends

it is funny how this site works.

people lurk, they join, they post, and then they fade away because they have healed enough to focus on other positive things.

that is pretty much where i am at.

stuckinamovement

It is funny how this site works. People lurk, they join, they post, and then they fade away because they have healed enough to focus on other positive things. That is pretty much where I am at. I have found that I am now in the “fading stage” in terms of my posting and honestly I don’t have a whole lot more to write about. My fade from the religion is just about over, and now its time to focus on more productive things.

I am forever in debt to many of you for your insightful posts and encouragement. There are some damn good writers and thinkers on this board as well as some pretty funny characters. I wish you the best as you cycle though the stages and come to peace with the terrible truth that Jehovah’s Witnesses are nothing more than another manmade religion twisting the scriptures to support their self proclaimed authority over 7 million other people.

I may return when I am “unstuck” out of the movement.

Take care

SIAM

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Lurker's first post

by sseveninches in

jw
friends

hi guys,.

i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.

i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.

stuckinamovement

Welcome man! You are in good company here. There are many ex servants, elders and even a few co's and gilead grads. It's tough at first but it gets easier. Give it time with your family. For many the "truth" is the only bright spot in their sad lives. It is a tough thing to tell them outright that the one bright spot is actually a lie. I am looking forward to your posts.

Siam