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SEC busts Bernie Madoff type ponzi scheme in Kingdom Halls!
by brit-93108 init is true, difficult as it is to believe.
the sec busted a bernie madoff ponzi scheme run in kingdom halls and targeted against defrauding elderly jehovah's witnesses:.
u.s. securities and exchange commission .
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It is true, difficult as it is to believe. The SEC busted a Bernie Madoff ponzi scheme run in Kingdom Halls and targeted against defrauding elderly Jehovah's Witnesses:
U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
WASHINGTON, D.C.Litigation Release No. 19764 / July 17, 2006
Securities and Exchange Commission v. Renaissance Asset Fund, Inc., Ronald J. Nadel, and Joseph M. Malone, Civil Action No. SA CV 06-661-JVS (C.D. California)
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2006/lr19764.htm
SEC Halts $16M Scam Aimed at Elderly Jehovah’s Witnesses
Read and weep.
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The Ancient Jewish CROSS and the ancient Hebrew letter Taw
by brit-93108 inthe ancient jewish cross by al garza phd is a groundbreaking book just published by createspace (isbn-13: 978-1461133896; april 27, 2011).. i'm about to order this book because it means a lot to me personally.
i was completely unaware of the history or meaning of ancient hebrew letter taw.
shaped like a cross and avoided by various jewish rabbi today due to its ties to jesus christ's death since his execution, taw is a pictorgraph used prior to babylonian captivity meaning "mark," "sign," "covenant," "seal," or more specifically, "sign, covenant, and seal of yhwh god" -- and fulfilled when jesus the messiah finalized the covenant on it through his blood so that we could have eternal life.. is the cross jewish or pagan?
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An elder whom I confided in, who believes private inquiry on doubts with a spiritually qualified elder is "healthy" (whilst showing sensitivity to other publishers whom might be stumbled) said "does it really matter what Jesus was impaled on?" When I pressed the issue he insisted "you're beating a horse to death."
If it does not matter then why would expressing a belief it was historically a cross result in disfellowshipment for apostasy? The elder's response, after shrugging and looking around the library. "Well, that's neither here nor there. I think the takeaway here is not to stumble weaker ones" (then quoted some wine scriptures from the NWT). "You're confining our discussions to this room and I don't see a problem. But why beat a horse to death? Why belabour an issue that has little merit other than academic interest from some scholars?"
I think if Jesus died on a cross, it means something. You don't worship or venerate it like the Catholics but you don't trivilise it. Jesus's executors intended to humiliate him by nailing him to a crossbeam (or stake) but he triumphed over death, mental terror and unbearable anguish, finally declaring that it is "finished" before passing away. Suddenly that crossbeam (or stake) became a proverbial middle finger aimed right at Satan's face, an embarassment to the devil, proof positive that his end is near. That makes it worthy, not of veneration or idolatrous worship, but as symbolic in its own right as the Tetragrammaton itself -- for it glorifies the truth of Jehovah, that men will choose Him out of free will.
The WTS must recognise this, otherwise like the elder said, it's an inconsequential issue unworthy of speculation. They take a position, yes, they changed a position of a man who was the very reason they exist at all, their founder. If it is not an issue wouldn't they have played it safe, presented evidence supporting a stake, but left it to "make up your own minds" in order to avoid controversy?
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The Ancient Jewish CROSS and the ancient Hebrew letter Taw
by brit-93108 inthe ancient jewish cross by al garza phd is a groundbreaking book just published by createspace (isbn-13: 978-1461133896; april 27, 2011).. i'm about to order this book because it means a lot to me personally.
i was completely unaware of the history or meaning of ancient hebrew letter taw.
shaped like a cross and avoided by various jewish rabbi today due to its ties to jesus christ's death since his execution, taw is a pictorgraph used prior to babylonian captivity meaning "mark," "sign," "covenant," "seal," or more specifically, "sign, covenant, and seal of yhwh god" -- and fulfilled when jesus the messiah finalized the covenant on it through his blood so that we could have eternal life.. is the cross jewish or pagan?
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Don't get me started. At least the wise old men in Patterson seem to generally teach the Earth itself could be any age (as Jehovah is ageless so time is irrelevant, a billion years is a twinkle in His eye). An elder once explained Earth is like a big terrarium that God got started and let "percolate" for billions of years. When the environment was just right, just like you add a lizard to a acquarium after painstakingly preparing its habitat, God added Adam and Eve to the biosphere just 6,000 years ago.
Now I say "at least" they believe this, because I didn't realize how truly bad and cheesy fundamentalists can get, until I got on this email list from a right wing creationist zionist list. Their newsletters and site articles argue that Earth, the Moon, and the stars are no more than 6,000 years, and actually have scientists writing articles (seems from their impressive degrees they are in an Orwellian double-think mode, defending the good fight of the faith or whatever). This fundamentalist movement has mainstream Christendom churches backing it. Can you imagine the mind-numbing self imposed ignorance of this?
You think the Watchtower is bad as it gets? Oh no, they're standing at the gates of scientific denial, but through those gates is a purgatory of mind numbing stupidity even Dante would consider allegorical in fiendish self-delusion.
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The Ancient Jewish CROSS and the ancient Hebrew letter Taw
by brit-93108 inthe ancient jewish cross by al garza phd is a groundbreaking book just published by createspace (isbn-13: 978-1461133896; april 27, 2011).. i'm about to order this book because it means a lot to me personally.
i was completely unaware of the history or meaning of ancient hebrew letter taw.
shaped like a cross and avoided by various jewish rabbi today due to its ties to jesus christ's death since his execution, taw is a pictorgraph used prior to babylonian captivity meaning "mark," "sign," "covenant," "seal," or more specifically, "sign, covenant, and seal of yhwh god" -- and fulfilled when jesus the messiah finalized the covenant on it through his blood so that we could have eternal life.. is the cross jewish or pagan?
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I just wanted to follow-up on Leolaia's comments by saying your knowledge of this subject is very impressive. Thanks for contributing to this thread. I hated it when people pretend to be in the know, and I certainly don't claim to know a lot about this subject, which is why one might say I decided to float a "trial balloon" on this site. It's interesting and thought provoking to see it dodged stray bullets until you, Leolaia, it a bullseye, and I tip my hat to you.
Although I have a good BS detector and can often spot what is patently wrong (the stake teaching, which I'm sure would cause Russell to turn in his grave) I lack the scholarly background to know why it's wrong. Is the founder of a religion that claims to be "the one true religion" that emerged after a dark age -- yet has no inspiration on its so-called "faithful slave" roots or lineage through that dark age -- be "inspired" by God to glorify the Cross on its Zion's Watch Tower cover and then mysteriously discover "whoops, big mistake... but don't get us wrong, doesn't mean we're not still the true religion, and to prove it we won't even posthumously disfellowship our founder for apostasy but acknowledge his place with the 144,000 in Heaven instead"? I dunno.
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The Ancient Jewish CROSS and the ancient Hebrew letter Taw
by brit-93108 inthe ancient jewish cross by al garza phd is a groundbreaking book just published by createspace (isbn-13: 978-1461133896; april 27, 2011).. i'm about to order this book because it means a lot to me personally.
i was completely unaware of the history or meaning of ancient hebrew letter taw.
shaped like a cross and avoided by various jewish rabbi today due to its ties to jesus christ's death since his execution, taw is a pictorgraph used prior to babylonian captivity meaning "mark," "sign," "covenant," "seal," or more specifically, "sign, covenant, and seal of yhwh god" -- and fulfilled when jesus the messiah finalized the covenant on it through his blood so that we could have eternal life.. is the cross jewish or pagan?
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"as if the claim that Jesus died on a cross means that Jesus would have been executed on a "pagan symbol.""
Going back a few, that was my thought, but that a symbol meant to bastardize a whorous union between Sanhedrin and Roman government to dishonor the body of a murdered man claimed by the Sanhedrin as masquerading as a Messiah, through Jesus's resurrection transformed into a glorious symbol of defeat of Satan. Thereby extending the metaphor of the cross's appearance to be an extended middle finger to God that His son Jesus was murdered on, turned around and used to humiliate the original Humiliator. Just extending the metphor....
"As you can see, therefore, the above discussion bears out the fact that the torture stake or tree upon which Jesus was impaled was not a cross, or a log with a crossbeam, as Christendom teaches, but was a straight, erect pole or log or stick and did not correspond with the phallic symbol of the cross."
Yes, your amusement doesn't escape reason; the stake does look like an erect phalus (since God didn't create human male anatomy with extensions, i.e. the crossbeams). Why is it their metaphors always blow up in their faces do you suppose?
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The Ancient Jewish CROSS and the ancient Hebrew letter Taw
by brit-93108 inthe ancient jewish cross by al garza phd is a groundbreaking book just published by createspace (isbn-13: 978-1461133896; april 27, 2011).. i'm about to order this book because it means a lot to me personally.
i was completely unaware of the history or meaning of ancient hebrew letter taw.
shaped like a cross and avoided by various jewish rabbi today due to its ties to jesus christ's death since his execution, taw is a pictorgraph used prior to babylonian captivity meaning "mark," "sign," "covenant," "seal," or more specifically, "sign, covenant, and seal of yhwh god" -- and fulfilled when jesus the messiah finalized the covenant on it through his blood so that we could have eternal life.. is the cross jewish or pagan?
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Also if you take the Devil thing seriously there are lots of aspects I've mentioned where scholars simply would not want to go. In an intellectual world people do tend to shy away from the discussion of fallen angels and many mainstream churches write off that whole area as metaphorical in the Bible, if nothing else to avoid losing credibility amongst their higher educated church members. You can't venture into occultic motivations in religious history without losing half your audience, so we lose that dimension of thought and discussion altogether.