Posts by joelbear

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Those with children, do you want your children to be sexually active?

by free2beme in

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friends

i know that we all felt the witnesses were to over the top on their restriction on sex, but do we want our children to be sexually active the way we wanted to be?

for example, should they have sex in high school with their girl/boy friends?

should they not be committed to anyway, and just have sex with whoever feels good at the moment, or better yet, who ever is willing?

joelbear

my position is the same as it has always been, children should not have sex until they are 25

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The Butterfly Effect

by Rabbit in

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it has been said that something as small as the flutter of a butterfly's .

wing can ultimately cause a typhoon halfway around the world.

--chaos theory

joelbear

this movie and Run Lola Run are my two favorite "what we do, even small things, can affect our life in major ways"

its happened to me several times in my life. i call them life pivot points.

1. heard a song on the radio on the way home from the meeting one night that made me decide to apply for bethel.

2. father threatened to make me wash trucks at night when i was pioneering that prompted me to move out, quit pioneering

and go to work full time.

3. missed meeting my sister-in-law for an appointment that ended up with me getting a job that led to my 25 year banking career.

4. bought a pornographic magazine at a store in Key West that led to me finding out about gay guesthouses which led to me

getting my first kiss from a guy named Billy that started my coming out process.

5. volunteered for the Atlanta gay helpline where I met Mitch.

who i am and where i am today is based largely on these 5 events.

i'm waiting for the next one i know its out there somewhere

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Just want to say hi to everyone..

by JustMeNC in

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friends

i'm new to this site, although i am umm wow, what am i?

i'm not formally df'd anymore, but i'm inactive, i guess but for about 15yrs.

i met online on a local site another former jw and she told me about this site.

WHY did you exit god and the bible when you exited the dubs?

by gumby in

not all that post here threw the bible and the bible god out the window when they exited the dubs, but many have.. for me personally, i never doubted god or the bibles authenticity untill years later when i began doing a re-search on the bible canon and how it was formed.

from there, i began looking at the sceptics view of the bible and it's god which then changed my views.. i guess my question is, why did you ( those who disbelieved god/bible upon exiting the dubs)... throw god and the bible out the window before you had re-searched it enough to make you believe contrary?

if all you really knew was that the wtbts was bunk, what made you feel the bible and it's god was bunk too?.

joelbear

i didn't exit the dubs without years of observation, study and thought. hypocrisy was what finally led me to leave.

i have always been a serious bible student, researching topics carefully. when i was at bethel and read the new testament

through in about 6 weeks i was left quite stunned at how unclear the message was, especially in Paul's writings. as I read

or read about other religious texts, i discovered similar themes between them all. a growing knowlege of science led me

to discredit many old testament stories. logical deduction led me to dismiss other scriptural texts, again, this process took

years.

i would not say that i have exited god although my concept of god is very unlike that of the bible or any organized religion.

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Check out Billygoat!! She is a such a Diva here!

by Sparkplug in

jw
friends

i had a chance to take a photo shoot of billygoat.

i had to show this off to you....because she is very shy about showing it.

maybe shy is the wrong word, but it is the best one i could think of.

joelbear

she is female but appears to have all of the traits that would deem her attractive

i am sure she has the ability to attract.

i am confident of it.

i believe it to be true.

why if were not female and if she weighed over 200 pounds i would ....

hee hee, she's pretty :)

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Where are all you disco dancers?

by IronClaw in

does anybody else out there in apostaland like the 70's music, esspecially the disco era?

i used to be a dj back in the day.

i worked at a rollerskating rink when disco was king and did private gigs as well.

joelbear

disco forever

course we couldn't go to discos so we went to the skating rink and danced on our skates, it rocked.

went to a disco once in Pensacola Fla. i was dancing with a girl even. my brother made us leave when

he saw two guys dancing together.

now at bear conventions they almost always have a dance. nothing hotter than two hot hairy guys, shirts

off, hair matted to chest with sweat, gyrating as if in heat

so many good songs. i just ordered the Time Life 70's collection.

bee gees

donna summer

yay

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Happy Truths

by joelbear in

at some point in history not too far in the future it will be determined that we should all be good to each other and those that aren't won't get driver's licenses or access to the internet which will basically cut them off and cause them to starve wither and die.. there are universal truths that run through all religions.

1)love others 2)don't get too wrapped up in gaining material things .

these truths produce happiness.. love much acquire little.

joelbear

at some point in history not too far in the future it will be determined that we should all be good to each other and those that aren't won't get driver's licenses or access to the internet which will basically cut them off and cause them to starve wither and die.

there are universal truths that run through all religions. 1)love others 2)don't get too wrapped up in gaining material things

these truths produce Happiness.

Love much Acquire little.

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Great Quotes About JW'S

by onesong in

jw
friends

i just picked up "the american religion" by harold bloom.

he reviews and critiques american born religions and has a chapter on jw's.. here's some quotes i loved:.

opening sentence of chapter- " every national faith is bound to call forth it's antitype, and ours has produced it's antithesis in the pecularily stark phenomenon of the jehovah's witnesses.".

joelbear

i continue to analyze the psychology that makes people become and stay witnesses. he alluded to a weak powerless mindset that is going to be granted power by Jehovah. i tend to agree with this aspect for most witnesses.

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