Ugliness and beauty are totally subjective. I rarely see 'ugly' in anyone.
Tammy
o.k i have noticed that most female jws are ugly.and by ugly i mean ugly.they won't work out,they are fat and won't go on a diet (some female teens won't even shave their legs),they neglect their appearance/body in general.any opinions?.
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p.s many will eventually get fat after marriage.
Ugliness and beauty are totally subjective. I rarely see 'ugly' in anyone.
Tammy
....or of any beliefs that require faith in an unseen god or gods?.
if humans could go back and see the primordial soup struck by lightning (or whatever it was that actually started it) and could personally observe that there were primitive man-like creatures that spread across the world coming out of africa (or whatever really happened) and that there wasn't a garden of eden ever or a worldwide flood ever.... .....would that allow some of the most staunch believers to put aside their beliefs?.
if men could go back and look for jesus and see what he really was (or was not or even if he was at all) and others could do the same for abraham, buddha and confucious and mohammad and joseph smith and c.t.
I would rather join the men and women of the nations all around Israel that were killed than serve like their little girls that were raped after the killings.
(Hey, if all the Jesus stuff is true then he was telling them that YHWH was as recorded.)
Do you think that the nations that sacrificed and burned their own children would have treated the people that they conquered better than this? Are these the people you would rather have joined? The standards of the Israelites might be atrocious to the standards we have today, but not in comparison to the nations surrounding them then.
I also do not think for one moment that God sanctioned the rape of any girl... child or woman. And 'if all this Jesus stuff is true', then He actually showed the Jews over and over again that they had misapplied the law, and that certain amendments had been made for them only because their hearts were too hard to do anything better.
Tammy
....or of any beliefs that require faith in an unseen god or gods?.
if humans could go back and see the primordial soup struck by lightning (or whatever it was that actually started it) and could personally observe that there were primitive man-like creatures that spread across the world coming out of africa (or whatever really happened) and that there wasn't a garden of eden ever or a worldwide flood ever.... .....would that allow some of the most staunch believers to put aside their beliefs?.
if men could go back and look for jesus and see what he really was (or was not or even if he was at all) and others could do the same for abraham, buddha and confucious and mohammad and joseph smith and c.t.
OTWO - LOL - gotta love Doctor Who. I think this is an extremely hypothetical question, and since no one really knows how they will react in a hypothetical situation, then the answers are only a guess... but I'll play.
If humans could go back and see the primordial soup struck by lightning (or whatever it was that actually started it) and could personally observe that there were primitive man-like creatures that spread across the world coming out of Africa (or whatever really happened) and that there wasn't a Garden of Eden ever or a worldwide flood ever.... .....would that allow some of the most staunch believers to put aside their beliefs?
I consider myself a staunch believer, but evolution or whatever scientific reasons that have been concluded about the development of the earth in no way conflicts with my belief in God as a creator. Science belongs to God. So whatever science says happened -and scientists are always learning new things- then that is the means God used to create. As for the Garden of Eden and the flood, etc - these could be real or allegory; it makes no difference to me. The message is what counts.
If men could go back and look for Jesus and see what he really was (or was not or even if he was at all) and others could do the same for Abraham, Buddha and Confucious and Mohammad and Joseph Smith and C.T. Russell, etc. , would that allow them to see that these were just men (or not at all men) who were not what we thought they were?
Assuming that things happened far differently than recorded? I think reactions to this time-travel thing would totally depend on the person - I think some would claim smoke and mirrors, and some would change their beliefs according to what was found. Others would hold their faith and wait for something to explain the discrepancy.
Small changes from sight to the written word would not bother me in the least. I expect that this did happen, but without actually affecting the truth.
On the other hand, OTWO, what if that time travel machine showed that everything written about Jesus is true? (or any of these other men) Would non-believers then claim smoke and mirrors themselves? Or would they follow the same pattern that I just outlined?
Tammy
also, do you think gas prices affects the jw field service any?.
here it is approximately $2.69 per gallon.
i heard in michigan it is $2.99 right now.. outaservice.
.97 cents a liter in Alberta. Sorry, but I don't know how to convert that into gallons.
Tammy
what's a really good movie you'd recommend that most people probably haven't seen?.
my personal recommendation: synecdoche, new york.
it's one of those movies that words fail utterly to capture--which really is the hallmark of a good movie, i suppose.
Also - 'Dr. Horrible's Sing-along-Blog' was hilarious!
most christians alive today have rejected the notion of eternal, physically painful punishment for non-believers after death.
(annihilationism, universalism and defining hell as an 'absence of/separation from god' are the most common beliefs, today.).
so, if you're a christian who doesn't view christianity as the only road to salvation, do you think evangelism is required or necessary?.
The JW evangelizing work is simply a work to spread the offer of eternal life. It's not a warning of any eternal punishment.
Agreed. Otherwise, I suspect the message would not have been received with joy in the first couple centuries, but rather with fear and anger.
Tammy
most christians alive today have rejected the notion of eternal, physically painful punishment for non-believers after death.
(annihilationism, universalism and defining hell as an 'absence of/separation from god' are the most common beliefs, today.).
so, if you're a christian who doesn't view christianity as the only road to salvation, do you think evangelism is required or necessary?.
You'd be what he calls the beleiver willing to "reinvent" Christianity, as needed, as more data becomes available.
I don't really think that's a fair statement, at least not in the way Loftus is applying it. Does he call learning new things about the natural world, new things about science, a reinvention of the laws of nature? Christians are learning more about the truth of God and Christ as they learn more about the world. Faith in God remains the same.
Tammy
most christians alive today have rejected the notion of eternal, physically painful punishment for non-believers after death.
(annihilationism, universalism and defining hell as an 'absence of/separation from god' are the most common beliefs, today.).
so, if you're a christian who doesn't view christianity as the only road to salvation, do you think evangelism is required or necessary?.
LeavingWT - I think evangelism is asked of us. I think followers of Christ have joy and peace and salvation in the here and now, and want to share that with others. However, the shove it down your throat kind of evangelism, I disagree with. I'll speak of Christ if people are asking about Him, or about religion... or I'll speak about it if I think the situation calls for it.
It all depends on the people and the situation, and there is a good reason that I crave a forum like this.
Tammy
most christians alive today have rejected the notion of eternal, physically painful punishment for non-believers after death.
(annihilationism, universalism and defining hell as an 'absence of/separation from god' are the most common beliefs, today.).
so, if you're a christian who doesn't view christianity as the only road to salvation, do you think evangelism is required or necessary?.
Do christians ever read anything other than the bible? That's the real question.
Of course! What kind of a question is that?
Tammy
what's a really good movie you'd recommend that most people probably haven't seen?.
my personal recommendation: synecdoche, new york.
it's one of those movies that words fail utterly to capture--which really is the hallmark of a good movie, i suppose.
Memoirs of a Geisha - one of my very favorite movies. Beautiful and unusual.